"Human Rights" protect criminals to the detriment of law abiding citizens

A woman started a scuffle with a policeman over a jaywalking ticket.  Then she resists arrest. Her friend shoves the policeman.  The policeman, faced with 2 unruly women scuffling with him, punches one girl in the face and then arrests both.

Again and again, he [the officer] tried to subdue the 19-year old. But the struggle continued. Suddenly, from the sidelines jumped the girl’s 17-year old friend. She shoved the officer out of the way. […] He closes his fist, winds up, and lands a hard right to her face.

[Human Rights proponent:] I don’t excuse her behavior. She was clearly in the wrong. But again, a force of a punch to the face is not justifiable.
See the entire video with transcript & subtitles

Human Rights seems to be mainly concerned with protecting criminals. People who are wrong. You don’t resist a police officer. You don’t shove a police officer. First you put yourself outside of the law, and then you look for protection of the law.

How does a police officer arrest 2 unruly women? If he maced and tasered them, that would be ok? He has to do a profound analysis, if the girls will escalate? How does he know if more people will interfere? Or if one woman has fighting skills, weapons? So a police officer has to take risks to protect the human rights of girls that are clearly wrong and that attack him!?

Interestingly, dictatorships do not have major crime problems. Nor do Brazilian shanty towns dominated by criminal gangs, or cities controlled by the mafia. Most smaller criminals can get subdued by rigorous law and order.

Devli’s advocate s provocative proposal
The suspension of due process, normal in alleged rape, child abuse and child porn cases, should be applied to crimes with real violence and real victims, where public safety is at stake. If simple unproven accusations would suffice to arrest and try bullies and street criminals, maybe public safety could be reinstated

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“Human Rights”-in-favor-of-Criminals Scheme

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Pattern

Girls shoving Policemen Gang attack victim stabs attacking gang banger Rodney King
(Los Angeles,1992)
“Bad guy” does something wrong or illegal Girls start scuffle with policeman, resist arrest & attack policeman on duty Group of thugs attack innocent students. Already knocked down one victim. Attacks next victim * Rodney King takes LA police on high speed car chase

* risking life of many innocent drivers and pedestrians on the way,

* He resists arrest, resists handcuffs, and attacks arresting policemen.

“Good Guy” reacts Unable to handcuff 2 unruly girls at the same time, policeman returns a punch to the girl that shoved him Next victim pulls a knife, and stabs attacker in throat. Police taser and beat in attempt to subdue and handcuff.

Rodney King keeps getting up. Police takes necessary measures to subdue him.

Even if they were overreacting, how serious is that compared to felony reckless driving, parole violation and drunk driving?

“Human Rights” worry about the guilty criminals Girl interferes with police work. Attacks policeman who is busy with another unruly girl.

Poor girl got a punch after attacking a policeman who, alone, faces 2 attackers

A group of thugs attacks innocent guys with punches. A victim defends himself with a knife.

How unjust for the attacker to get stabbed without prior warning

If police tells you to lie down and you get up, you must be aware of the consequences.

Even more if you are clearly wrong, drunk driving, parole violation and reckless driving on escape attempt.

Poor guy: almost killed innocent citizens with his car, could have injured police officers on duty, and got some beating with no long term effects.

“Human Rights” don’t get concerned about victims, safety of society and law abiding citizens Police should engage in half hour scuffle with the girls. If girls use weapons, or more people enter in the fight, tough luck.

If the girls escape and thus learn that it pays to resist police, tough luck too.

Attack victim has risk his life

  • by first warning the gangster that he will stab him,
  • losing the element of surprise.
  • allowing the gangsters to get their own weapons,  or
    to regroup and gang up on him, or

When attacked by a group of thugs, victim has to do a legal analysis of the case before acting.

Safety of policemen is not important.

Safety of society against criminal reckless driving felons is not important.

“Good Guy” gets into trouble Police get suspended, suffer inquiry. Press and “anti-racists” attack the police for doing their duty. In this case the attack victim, a student, got 3 years 9 months unsuspended jail sentence! Police suffered inquiry, legal challenges.
Either way, “good guys” get into trouble, even if they act differently At other occasions, police may get injured for reacting too lightly or too slow Had he wasted time with warnings, and not defended himself, he could have been knocked down, beaten to death. The attackers could have gotten out their (bigger) knives.  He might have been attacked by the entire group of the agressor. If police is too lenient, they may suffer consequences:

  • police may get hit, injured,
  • if the criminal happens to have a weapon police can get shot and die
  • or if he escapes due to police leniency police will be reprimanded
  • if he escapes, he will continue endangering innocent bystanders
The exact “human right” of the criminal Attack police trying to arrest your friend and have the human right not get punched You may knock down one person, attack the next person. You have the human right to be politely warned before getting knived in self-defense. Human right to resist police, flee for an hour endangering hundreds of people’s life, continuing to resist, try to attack police, being potentially armed, not surrender to police. You have the human right not get beaten into submission until you get handcuffed
Sources of information Video with transcript & subtitles Prison for Self Defense
Prison for Self Defense (2)
Prison term length reconsidered
Rodney King (Wikipedia)
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Nude adolescent photos: a Crime. Videos of lynching, killing, beating adolescents are legal Prime Time TV.

After showning examples on the unrelenting persecution for "child porn", let us compare child porn to crime videos.

Years of Jail for "clicking on child porn link". But lynching videos are legal & Border arrest & instant jail for owning DVD with young looking 19 year old porn star. Any honest citizen risks jail

.Depictions of violent child & adolescent beatings and killings are shown on prime time TV.  Tasteful nude photos of adolescents are VERY illegal, a crime, a terrible felony.

Unconscious stupidity and taboos analyzed

Why different standards for clicking and linking to various illegal material

Would someone be sent to 5-45 years of jail for CLICKING drug or prostitution LINKS?

  • click here for illegal prostitutes (over 18)
  • click here to buy hemp seed legal in Holland
  • click here to buy cocaine
  • click here to get info where to buy cocaine & crack

But clicking on “Click here for illegal child sex” is a crime.

What problem is there in possession of pictures of lawful events, or linking to them

filming and photographing FACTS that happen anyway
  • teenagers filming themselves naked
  • teenagers filming themselves having the sex they have anyway and they can legally have because of similar age
  • toddlers filmed naked by their parents

Nobody gets harmed, nothing illegal happens. Why are there enormous penalties for possessing depictions of legal non-violent events?

Posessing depictions of real sexual abuse like sex play with a toddler carries much worse then REAL physical abuse

Even possession of REAL child pornography of the worst kind, while in bad taste, does not warrant higher penalties then allowing REAL child torture. A mother got 6 months in jail for allowing and watching her boyfriend torture her 3 year old child regularly with burning, drowning, locking into the freezer …. The penalty for the real perpetrator and torturer (5-8 years?) is way less then the 20 years expected for possession of a DVD with 23 year old Little Lupe Porn

6-foot, 210-pound Piskorski spanked Noah with a belt, forcibly held the child under 130-degree water causing extensive second-degree burns and pressed the child’s hands against a wall heater until grill marks were burned into Noah’s skin http://dailyme.com/story/2010050800001108/oregon-city-man-convicted-scalding-beating.html#ixzz0nj4shULq

Normally the criminal gets punished, not the person having depictions of the crime.

Proof: see two videos and some pictures below, of maiming, lynching, mistreating real people. Nothing about the pictures is illegal, they were transmitted by prime time Television.

Why are depictions of sexual activities so much worse then depictions of killing children and violence against children?

(1) Whoever violates, or attempts or conspires to violate, paragraph (1), (2), or (3) of subsection (a) shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, but if such person has a prior conviction under this chapter, section 1591, chapter 71section 1591, chapter 71, chapter 109A, or chapter 117, or under section 920 of title 10 (article 120 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), or under the laws of any State relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor or ward, or the production, possession, receipt, mailing, sale, distribution, shipment, or transportation of child pornography, or sex trafficking of children, such person shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not less than 15 years nor more than 40 years. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2252.html

Would someone be sent 5 to 45 years in jail for for "production, possession, receipt, mailing, sale, distribution, shipment, or transportation of depictions of extreme violence and extreme physical abuse of a child"? NO! See examples below But there are jail terms for having 2 grainy low resolution photos of a nude teenager in a thumbnail database. That is a terrible crime.

Sorry for posting very tasteless violent pictures and movies, but I am trying to make a point. You may want to skip the movies

This link is perfectly legal

  • Youtube Videos: Nanny beats Child .
  • Now it would be totally illegal if I had a link: Nanny fondles baby’s private parts
  • nanny fondling 16 year old caught on film

I would be jailed, instantly, and anyone clicking on it would.

very graphic, I suggest you do NOT watch. If customs catches you with the video, maybe you need to prove that the victim is over 18 years old?
Whipping of a minor by the Taliban. Do we need to prove she is over 18? Otherwise the entire might of interpol will hunt us down for having a copy in our computer’s cache or trash? No, if it is violence towards adolescents, it is ok. But nudity or sex, that is a heinous crime.
  • One can show, store, possess, distribute a video killing a child (16 year olds nowadays are called children).
  • If he were naked, masturbating, or making love to his girl friend, then this would warrant 5-45 years of jail.
  • but a movie of him clubbed to death, that is perfectly, see below
Atrocities towards minors can be shown legally (warning: graphic violence)
Verbal description of atrocities shown in pictures
Beating Death Of Derrion Albert,16,Caught On Video Cell phone footage showing a group of teens viciously kicking and striking a 16-year-old honors student with splintered railroad ties has ramped up pressure on Chicago officials to address chronic violence that has led to dozens of deaths of city teens each year. The graphic video of the afternoon melee emerged on local news stations over the weekend, showing the fatal beating of Derrion Albert, a sophomore honor roll student at Christian Fenger Academy High School. His death was the latest addition to a rising toll: More than 30 students were killed last school year, and the city could exceed that number this year.[…] Albert was knocked unconscious when Carson struck him in the head with a board and a second person punched him in the face. Albert regained consciousness and was trying to get up when he was attacked a second time by five people, struck in the head with a board by Riley and stomped in the head by Shannon, Simonton said.
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Somali pirates rewarded with asylum in Europe

Dogmatic application of well intended human rights laws rewards pirates with comfortable asylum in Europe.

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European jails look like a luxury resort to arrested Somali Pirates.  After their jail term they can not be sent back against their will,  instead pirates want to request asylum and then bring their families over. Exactly the kind of immigrants a country needs!

Human Rights, when overdone as a inflexible dogma, encourage crime.

Somali pirates embrace capture as route to Europe

Pirates captured after attacking a Dutch vessel have gone on trial in the liberal Netherlands and at least two of them have declared their intention to stay on as residents.

Geert-Jan Knoops, an international criminal law attorney and professor at the Royal University of Utrecht, has suggested that the Dutch trial might encourage pirates to surrender just in order to seek a better life in Western countries. [ . . . ]

“Life is good here,” said one of the defendants, named Sayid, about his experience in a Dutch jail.
[ . . . ]

“My client feels safe here. His own village is dominated by poverty and sharia [Islamic law] but here he has good food and can play football and watch television. He thinks the lavatory in his cell is fantastic,” he said.

Mr Ausma has told the Somali that he will be considered for a residence permit after serving his sentence, expected to be a maximum of four years in prison.

“He intends to send for his wife and children as soon as he is released from prison. He knows he cannot easily be sent back to Somalia. He loves it here in the Netherlands,” Mr Ausma told the NRC Handelsblad newspaper.

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Sexual Desire for Pre-Pubescent Children. The worst of all crimes?

As child abuse experts point out, about 50 children are reported kidnapped and raped or murdered by strangers annually, compared to more than 3,000 children murdered by parents and other family members in non-sexual cases.

Most sex offenders, says one therapist who works with sex offenders in a state prison system, are “Gentle grandfathers who made one mistake in judgment years ago and fondled their grandchild.

At issue her is:

  • Legal punishment for sexual “crimes” against minors is a modern witch hunt.
  • Totally out of proportion to damage caused by it.
  • Hysteria
  • Purposeful confounding of criminal violent sexual crime against minors nearly or totally harmless fondling or consensual sexual acts
  • any reasonable open-minded unbiased discussion or scientific analysis of the issue regarding underage sexuality  is totally shunned, repressed, ignored, prohibited.
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Pirates with Grenade Launchers Attack British Ship. Captured and set Free by Portuguese Navy

Heavily armed pirates attack a British ship. They were arrested by a Portuguese warship (part of the same Nato alliance as Britain) and then set fee.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8030541.stm

Explosives and grenade launchers were discovered on the mother ship when Portuguese special forces boarded “with no exchange of fire”, Lt Cmdr Alexandre Santos Fernandes said.

“It was almost a kilogramme of high explosives. If used correctly it can open a hole in the hull of a ship and sink her,” Lt Cmdr Fernandes said.

“It is the first time we have spotted high explosives on board a pirate ship, normally they just stick to AK-47s and RPGs (grenades).”

The 19 pirate suspects were released because they had not attacked Portuguese property or citizens.

I really wonder if that is furthering human happiness, or if it contributes to more suffering, encouraging further piracy by the same criminals and by others encouraged by their impunity.

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Problematic Human Rights: captured Somali pirates are usually released

Human Right are certainly a progress compared to middle age witch tortures and stalinistic despotic abuses.

But as all dogmas, maybe they should be questioned.  Setting pirates free after expensive capture, does that not encourage piracy and create human suffering? Potential victims of the next attack of the same pirates? Victims of other pirates who join the profession, because they see that their biggest risk is spending a day on a war ship, getting fed and then sent back home? Everyone in the world who pays higher cost for higher insurance premiums due to piracy?

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