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Victim: Courts did more harm than Polanski
Posted by Devils Advocate in Teenage Sexuality on 10:23 AM
The events of a single afternoon when she was 13 years old have haunted Samantha Geimer her entire life. A famous movie director allegedly gave her champagne and had sex with her.
She is 45 now, and wishes the whole matter would just go away. The arrest of Roman Polanski in Switzerland over the weekend makes that highly unlikely. Geimer is back in the news in connection with the infamous 1977 California sex case, whether she likes it or not.
Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/29/polanski.victim.profile/index.html
Of course, if the worst allegations were true, that Polanski drugged the girl without her knowledge, and raped her while she told him to stop, everyone agrees this is a serious crime. But, where is the proof? It is strange that with sexual crimes against minors, the alleged perpetrator is “guilty until proven innocent”. Many times a minor gets caught by the parents, and instead of admitting she did it willingly, she decides to cry rape. So in normal cases, the legal rule is “innocent until proven guilty”. That is the rule that should be valid for all legal cases, even if a few guilty people were to be set free unjustly.
Quaeludes were a recreational drug, not a date rape drug, so if the girl were conscious of the fact and not underage, there would not be a maior problem. Note also that there is no proof for all the allegations that he gave her quaeludes
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone
So Polanski did a plea bargain, admitted to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor. Yes the girl was fairly young, but millions of men would go to jail if this would be enforced regularly. I think it is worse to get a minor pregnant, when she is not ready for a child physiologically, psychologically, and financially. As shown in other posts here, it seems that the hysteria about underage sex is not supported by scientific facts. Worse, scientific research about underage sexuality is actively suppressed and shunned. The link before shows how prestigious scientific research (not a fringe publication but the American Psychological Association) showed that most underage sexuality causes no problems. This research was rejected by unanimous vote in the US senate. Where else would the US senate repress research? Well, Clinton repudiated the Bell Curve, racial differences are another no-no.
Also notice that in the 70ies, times were different. Holland legally published porn movies with 16 year old actors. The blue lagoon with nude scenes of very young actresses has not even been out yet. In most parts of the world, all these things became criminalized later
And finally, most crimes would have prescribed after 35 years.
So is there a problem: yes. But I don’t see it as a huge problem that is being made out of it. And, often forgotten, there is a problem when adult women (or men) take recreational drugs and drink alcohol, and maybe they end up doing things they would not have done otherwise. Independent of being underage or not. Aclohol-related loss of self control is a huge problem.
Enough playing devils’ advocate today. This is not the complete discussion of the issue, just some points that are often omitted.
Teenage boy jailed and sentenced for consensually kissing teenage girl (Marco Weiss-Charlotte-Turkey)
Posted by admin in Teenage Sexuality on 09:55 AM
A 17 year old boy kissed a 13 year old boy who had lied she was 15. Mother found out, German boy spends 8 months in Turkish prisons with 30 adult prisoners in a cell and now gets a 2 1/2 year suspended sentence. He could have gotten 8 years.
Why does the press not call this stupid insanity by name? Society was brainwashed so the teenage sex witch hunt continues unabated.
Marco Weiss had kissed a British girl Charlotte in Turkey.
A 17-year-old German student faces up to eight years in Turkish prison. His offense? Kissing and fondling a 13-year-old British girl who allegedly lied about her age.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,490525,00.html
A Turkish court has sentenced a German teenager to a suspended prison term of two-and-a-half years for sexual abuse of a 13-year-old girl.
As usual, this is where the manipulative lies start. Consensual sexual activity is called “sexual abuse”. Just because it involves a minor. The law distorting facts, worse then any Nazi propaganda. A kiss is a kiss, abuse is abuse. A consensual kiss is not abuse or rape.
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Sexual Desire for Pre-Pubescent Children. The worst of all crimes?
Posted by Devils Advocate in Teenage Sexuality on 11:55 AM
As child abuse experts point out, about 50 children are reported kidnapped and raped or murdered by strangers annually, compared to more than 3,000 children murdered by parents and other family members in non-sexual cases.
Most sex offenders, says one therapist who works with sex offenders in a state prison system, are “Gentle grandfathers who made one mistake in judgment years ago and fondled their grandchild.
At issue her is:
- Legal punishment for sexual “crimes” against minors is a modern witch hunt.
- Totally out of proportion to damage caused by it.
- Hysteria
- Purposeful confounding of criminal violent sexual crime against minors nearly or totally harmless fondling or consensual sexual acts
- any reasonable open-minded unbiased discussion or scientific analysis of the issue regarding underage sexuality is totally shunned, repressed, ignored, prohibited.
Germany bans Cola drink for 0.4 micrograms/l cocaine content
Posted by Against Irrational Unconscious in Irrational Drug Policy on 11:37 AM
Another absurd example of drug policy going haywire. The sugar content and artificial coloring, and the empty calories are deadly menaces to public health. Very minute traces of cocaine are probably totally inefficient, maybe even beneficial according to old South American Indian tradition. Certainly the coffeine is more dangerous. It will be interesting if such traces will be found in other foodstuffs.
The illegal cocaine alkaloid – one of 10 found in coca and representing only 0.8% of the plant’s chemical make-up – is chemically removed before use, as mandated by international anti-narcotics agencies.
Man who sought prostitute for son (14y) sentenced
Posted by Devils Advocate in Teenage Sexuality, Victimless Crime on 12:48 AM
A father who asked an undercover police officer posing as a prostitute to take his 14-year-old son’s virginity has been given a suspended prison sentence.
“Child Abuse” Dogmatists Repress Scientific Research
Posted by admin in Faulty Science, Stupidity-Dogmas, Teenage Sexuality on 03:03 PM
The blog put up a very very nice listing of persecution of scientists, of repression of scientific research by dogmatic people. It is correctly called radical left. I would not sign off blindly on all their statements.
[Disclaimer: My main topic is "defense of free research", "freedom to find the scientific true facts" without getting death threats. This is not a crusade for underage sex, it is rather about unbiased truth & freedom of research versus dogmatic preconceived ideas]
http://www.radicalleft.net/blog/_archives/2006/6/5/1990675.html
In the only instance of a U.S. Congressional resolution against a scientific paper, the House of Representatives, with only minimal opposition, denounced a study by Dr. Bruce Rind & others, published in the scholarly review, Psychological Bulletin, in 1998.
Are there women paedophiles?
Posted by Against Irrational Unconscious in Faulty Science, Stupidity-Dogmas, Teenage Sexuality on 02:43 PM
If a man to believes that his sexual problems stem from being “abused” by an attractive female when he was fourteen, this normally would not pass as scientific evidence. But on issues with dogmatic preconceived dogmas, such faulty evidence can be presented in scientific conferences.
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Teenage Sexuality & Pedophilia
Posted by admin in Teenage Sexuality on 01:44 PM
http://www.radicalleft.net/blog/_archives/2009/1/26/4070216.html
In the US, the laws on sexual repression/oppression are getting worse. I say this because I am a convicted sex offender.
It happened 10 years ago when at the age of 19 I had consensual sex with a girl aged 14.
At the time she told me that she was 18 (thus legal). The blame all fell on me however.
I was told that I should have known better and sentenced to two years in prison.
At that age, by US law, I was unable to make the decision to consume alcohol responsibly, yet I should have known that she wasn’t 18?
How shocking is that?
Blind dogmatism makes exaggerated laws that stigmatize innocent people. The modern witch hunt. Adolescents need legal counsel before engaging in any sexual behavior.
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