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Why a doberman is better then a security guard or policeman
Posted by admin in Human Rights, Jokes on
A doberman guard dog does not know about human rights. If your attacker kicks or shoves a Doberman, he get what he deserves, and nobody feels pity for the attacker.
(in case you don’t get the joke.
- If you shove a policeman and he gives you one single punch only, the policeman already suffers an inquiry.
- if you punch a guy, and he knives you in self defense, your punching victim may go to jail
- You mess with a dog, the dog has no human rights training. The dog has no scruples.
- The dog is like a mobster, like a motorcycle gang member. The has a short trigger, and reacts impulsively, with no mercy.
- You don’t mess with a mobster, a gang member, a motorcycle gang member. Nor with a dog.
- so if someone invades a yard guarded by 3 dobermen, he gets dilacerated. And nobody pities him.
- if a group of punks invade a yard guarded by 3 security guards, the security guards are too afraid to respond in force
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"Human Rights" protect criminals to the detriment of law abiding citizens
Posted by Devils Advocate in Human Rights on
A woman started a scuffle with a policeman over a jaywalking ticket. Then she resists arrest. Her friend shoves the policeman. The policeman, faced with 2 unruly women scuffling with him, punches one girl in the face and then arrests both.
Again and again, he [the officer] tried to subdue the 19-year old. But the struggle continued. Suddenly, from the sidelines jumped the girl’s 17-year old friend. She shoved the officer out of the way. [...] He closes his fist, winds up, and lands a hard right to her face.
[Human Rights proponent:] I don’t excuse her behavior. She was clearly in the wrong. But again, a force of a punch to the face is not justifiable.
See the entire video with transcript & subtitles
Human Rights seems to be mainly concerned with protecting criminals. People who are wrong. You don’t resist a police officer. You don’t shove a police officer. First you put yourself outside of the law, and then you look for protection of the law.
How does a police officer arrest 2 unruly women? If he maced and tasered them, that would be ok? He has to do a profound analysis, if the girls will escalate? How does he know if more people will interfere? Or if one woman has fighting skills, weapons? So a police officer has to take risks to protect the human rights of girls that are clearly wrong and that attack him!?
Interestingly, dictatorships do not have major crime problems. Nor do Brazilian shanty towns dominated by criminal gangs, or cities controlled by the mafia. Most smaller criminals can get subdued by rigorous law and order.
Devli’s advocate s provocative proposal
The suspension of due process, normal in alleged rape, child abuse and child porn cases, should be applied to crimes with real violence and real victims, where public safety is at stake. If simple unproven accusations would suffice to arrest and try bullies and street criminals, maybe public safety could be reinstated
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Example: -> Pattern |
Girls shoving Policemen | Gang attack victim stabs attacking gang banger | Rodney King (Los Angeles,1992) |
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| “Bad guy” does something wrong or illegal | Girls start scuffle with policeman, resist arrest & attack policeman on duty | Group of thugs attack innocent students. Already knocked down one victim. Attacks next victim | * Rodney King takes LA police on high speed car chase
* risking life of many innocent drivers and pedestrians on the way, * He resists arrest, resists handcuffs, and attacks arresting policemen. |
| “Good Guy” reacts | Unable to handcuff 2 unruly girls at the same time, policeman returns a punch to the girl that shoved him | Next victim pulls a knife, and stabs attacker in throat. | Police taser and beat in attempt to subdue and handcuff.
Rodney King keeps getting up. Police takes necessary measures to subdue him. Even if they were overreacting, how serious is that compared to felony reckless driving, parole violation and drunk driving? |
| “Human Rights” worry about the guilty criminals | Girl interferes with police work. Attacks policeman who is busy with another unruly girl.
Poor girl got a punch after attacking a policeman who, alone, faces 2 attackers |
A group of thugs attacks innocent guys with punches. A victim defends himself with a knife.
How unjust for the attacker to get stabbed without prior warning |
If police tells you to lie down and you get up, you must be aware of the consequences.
Even more if you are clearly wrong, drunk driving, parole violation and reckless driving on escape attempt. Poor guy: almost killed innocent citizens with his car, could have injured police officers on duty, and got some beating with no long term effects. |
| “Human Rights” don’t get concerned about victims, safety of society and law abiding citizens | Police should engage in half hour scuffle with the girls. If girls use weapons, or more people enter in the fight, tough luck.
If the girls escape and thus learn that it pays to resist police, tough luck too. |
Attack victim has risk his life
When attacked by a group of thugs, victim has to do a legal analysis of the case before acting. |
Safety of policemen is not important.
Safety of society against criminal reckless driving felons is not important. |
| “Good Guy” gets into trouble | Police get suspended, suffer inquiry. Press and “anti-racists” attack the police for doing their duty. | In this case the attack victim, a student, got 3 years 9 months unsuspended jail sentence! | Police suffered inquiry, legal challenges. |
| Either way, “good guys” get into trouble, even if they act differently | At other occasions, police may get injured for reacting too lightly or too slow | Had he wasted time with warnings, and not defended himself, he could have been knocked down, beaten to death. The attackers could have gotten out their (bigger) knives. He might have been attacked by the entire group of the agressor. | If police is too lenient, they may suffer consequences:
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| The exact “human right” of the criminal | Attack police trying to arrest your friend and have the human right not get punched | You may knock down one person, attack the next person. You have the human right to be politely warned before getting knived in self-defense. | Human right to resist police, flee for an hour endangering hundreds of people’s life, continuing to resist, try to attack police, being potentially armed, not surrender to police. You have the human right not get beaten into submission until you get handcuffed |
| Sources of information | Video with transcript & subtitles | Prison for Self Defense Prison for Self Defense (2) Prison term length reconsidered |
Rodney King (Wikipedia) |
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Killer’s human rights: German killers sue Wikipedia to have their names expurged
Posted by Devils Advocate in Human Rights on
In 1990, Bavarian actor Walter Sedlmayr was brutally murdered. Two of his business associates were convicted, imprisoned for the crime, and recently paroled. Who killed Sedlmayr? Its a matter of public record, but if one of the men and his German law firm gets their way, Wikipedia (and EFF) will not be allowed to tell you. A few days ago, the online encyclopedia received a cease and desist letter from one of the convicts—represented by the aptly named German law firm Stopp and Stopp—demanding that the perpetrator’s name be taken off of the Sedlmayr article page.
At issue is an apparent conflict between the U.S. First Amendment—which protects truthful speech—and German law—which seeks to protect the name and likenesses of private persons from unwanted publicity.
Source: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/murderer-wikipedia-shhh
Human rights became a weapon to protect criminals. German courts convincingly take human rights protection to their logical conclusion. Convicted criminals should have a chance in life to re-socialize, after they get out of jail and finished their punishment.
Would it not be interesting if Walter Sedlmeyer’s heirs were fined or imprisioned for publishing the name of their father’s murderer?
Maybe off-line paper encyclopedias should be burned to expurge history? What about Hitler’s and Stalin’s rights to be forgotten?
Devil’s advocate’s irreverant suggestion
Maybe we should re-think human rights for criminals. Maybe like in old times, criminals should be executed, or permanently marked and mutilated.
Or maybe we should go all the way with human rights and government should employ or financially support criminals for the rest of their life, This is more honest then deceiving citizens into employing ex-criminals who were given a deceptively clean police record. Some hard labor jobs where they can earn their living but not threaten law abiding citizens would be a good option.
Brazil takes human rights for adolescents to the extreme: underage (under 18 years) criminals can get a maximum of 3 years of “educational measures” even if they killed, raped, and mutiliated many people). And after these three years, their criminal record is wiped clean. So you can do a background check on your new baby sitter or house maid, and get a clean police record, even though she is a multiple rapist and serial killer. This is “human rights” taken to their extreme. It is strange: law abiding citizens have no human rights to be protected from criminals.
Praise the US constitution and the First Amendment. No discussion in the US about censoring truth. Not a chance.
Of course, on the other end of the spectrum are kids who will be on sex offender lists all life long for having had consensual sex with a 15 year old when they were 17 or 18 year old.
Latest News: the German Supreme Court decided that the freedom of press archives is more important then the right of criminals to have their records deleted (Bundesgerichtshof urteilt gegen Sedlmayr-Mörder Dec. 15, 2009)
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UK: Police stop and search innocent white people to balance race figures, terror watchdog says
Posted by admin in Race & Intelligence on
Political correctness going overboard. It just so happens that suicide bombers rarely are blonde white old ladies. But it violates civil rights when black, Arab or Asian muslim males are singled out as terrorist subjects.
He accused the police of wasting time and money by carrying out “self-evidently unmerited searches”, which were also an invasion of civil liberties. The searches, for example, of blonde women who fit no terrorist profile came against a backdrop of complaints from rights groups that the number of black and Muslim people being stopped and searched by police was disproportionate.
Lord Carlile said that police were stopping white people unjustifiably so that official figures would make it look as if they were not singling out black and Asian people under Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000. “No police officer has admitted that to me, but I believe that is the case,” he told The Times.
from: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6521199.ece
Of course, there is another human rights problem. The problem of innocent white subjects being searched purely for statistical reasons, in spite of not fitting any statistic pattern for terrorists Just for political correctness. That is a violation of their civil rights.
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Somali pirates rewarded with asylum in Europe
Posted by admin in Human Rights on
European jails look like a luxury resort to arrested Somali Pirates. After their jail term they can not be sent back against their will, instead pirates want to request asylum and then bring their families over. Exactly the kind of immigrants a country needs!
Human Rights, when overdone as a inflexible dogma, encourage crime.
Somali pirates embrace capture as route to Europe
Pirates captured after attacking a Dutch vessel have gone on trial in the liberal Netherlands and at least two of them have declared their intention to stay on as residents.
Geert-Jan Knoops, an international criminal law attorney and professor at the Royal University of Utrecht, has suggested that the Dutch trial might encourage pirates to surrender just in order to seek a better life in Western countries. [ . . . ]
“Life is good here,” said one of the defendants, named Sayid, about his experience in a Dutch jail.
[ . . . ]
“My client feels safe here. His own village is dominated by poverty and sharia [Islamic law] but here he has good food and can play football and watch television. He thinks the lavatory in his cell is fantastic,” he said.
Mr Ausma has told the Somali that he will be considered for a residence permit after serving his sentence, expected to be a maximum of four years in prison.
“He intends to send for his wife and children as soon as he is released from prison. He knows he cannot easily be sent back to Somalia. He loves it here in the Netherlands,” Mr Ausma told the NRC Handelsblad newspaper.
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Pirates with Grenade Launchers Attack British Ship. Captured and set Free by Portuguese Navy
Posted by Against Irrational Unconscious in Human Rights on
Heavily armed pirates attack a British ship. They were arrested by a Portuguese warship (part of the same Nato alliance as Britain) and then set fee.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8030541.stm
Explosives and grenade launchers were discovered on the mother ship when Portuguese special forces boarded “with no exchange of fire”, Lt Cmdr Alexandre Santos Fernandes said.
“It was almost a kilogramme of high explosives. If used correctly it can open a hole in the hull of a ship and sink her,” Lt Cmdr Fernandes said.
“It is the first time we have spotted high explosives on board a pirate ship, normally they just stick to AK-47s and RPGs (grenades).”
The 19 pirate suspects were released because they had not attacked Portuguese property or citizens.
I really wonder if that is furthering human happiness, or if it contributes to more suffering, encouraging further piracy by the same criminals and by others encouraged by their impunity.
Problematic Human Rights: captured Somali pirates are usually released
Posted by admin in Human Rights on
Human Right are certainly a progress compared to middle age witch tortures and stalinistic despotic abuses.
But as all dogmas, maybe they should be questioned. Setting pirates free after expensive capture, does that not encourage piracy and create human suffering? Potential victims of the next attack of the same pirates? Victims of other pirates who join the profession, because they see that their biggest risk is spending a day on a war ship, getting fed and then sent back home? Everyone in the world who pays higher cost for higher insurance premiums due to piracy?
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