Our need for paedos: why society obsesses over child abuse

Britain has been in the grips of pedophile hysteria for 30 years. The Satanic Abuse panic caused many innocent victims until it was proven a hoax by Elisabeth Loftus’ research.  Interestingly, instead of giving up, pedohysterics went on digging. Operation Yewtree failed to convict most of the alleged perpetrators, but finally snagged a few octogenarians who will die in prison for groping adolescents, with scantly any proof that would pass due process rules.

Recent obsession about alleged ass groping by famous TV stars in the 1970’ies caused police to divert their attention away from real recent child abuses to investigating 40 year old allegations.

Leading psychologist Dr Noreen Tehrani, who advised specialist child abuse detectives in the Metropolitan, Surrey, Thames Valley and Hampshire forces, said police were under colossal strain from the escalating demands to investigate ancient paedophilia, requiring her to spend her entire time soothing cops’ frayed nerves.
She added that pressure from Westminster politicians forced police to divert attention from children at risk to historical cases. "They are just completely inundated with work, they are beginning to collapse. What I am getting are more and more exhausted officers. There aren’t enough officers in these specialist teams and they are overwhelmed," Tehrani said.
The psychobabbler – whose own views on the merits of investigating past paedofiddling remained unknown — said officers were on the point of collapse, with many going off sick as a growing number of historical claims of abuse increased pressure on already busy teams. She told the Guardian (12 vii) that she would be writing to PM David Cameron and Theresa May, the home secretary, to express her deep concern at the pressures the teams were under.  Chris Brand

Spiked online has an excellent article which I quote in part. Read the entire article at the source

Our need for paedos: why society obsesses over child abuse

The British obsession with paedophiles is not simply a recurring moral panic, like the ones over crime or youthful misbehaviour that come and go depending on what mood the police or the press are in. Rather, it is a permanent fixture in British political and moral life; an ever-present force; a neverending morality tale in which the characters might change – cloaked Satanists one day, old TV celebrities the next, wicked politicians the day after that – but where the story remains remarkably samey: that is, that dark, twisted forces are seeking to harm our children and thus we must always be vigilant, obsessively so, reorganising society itself in order to keep the monsters at bay and our children safe.

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Age of Consent

Here are 10 key points/memes to memorize and spread as far and widely as possible regarding the age of consent, and in particular, the validity of discussion of the age of consent, both within and outside the men’s rights movement :

1 / If the discussion of sex laws had always been taboo/forbidden, then homosexuality would still be illegal. Homosexuality is illegal in many countries, and being criminalized in several others. If we disallow discussion of (changing) sex laws in the West, we will be in a poor position to prevent similar attempts to suppress even discussion of the rights of homosexuals in countries where homosexuality is illegal. We criticize Russia for making it illegal to ‘promote’ homosexuality to children, yet those same ‘liberal’ progressives want to make it illegal to ‘promote’ (i.e discuss rationally) lowering the age of consent or to criticize any laws ostensibly protecting children. If discussing ‘child protection’ laws had always been off limits, Alan Turing would still be considered a child abusing pervert (he had illegal sex with a boy under the age of majority at the time).


Reprinted with the kind permission of the Antifeminist

This post fits into the Thilo Sarrazin discussion, because it deals with taboo speech that makes it impossible to engage in rational discussion and scientific search for truth. I recommend reading my Sarrazin reviews, especially the ones still due to be published. See also Robert Kurzban.

It of course fits into our Human-Stupidity age of consent and teenage sexuality discussions.


2(and relating to 1)/ The age of consent in the UK was set at 16 (raised from 12/13) in a backward Victorian criminal amendment act (1885) that also criminalized homosexuality, punishable by death. The same law that Alan Turing was prosecuted under. Ironically, it is now effectively taboo to criticize one half of that backward 1885 bill (the age of consent of 16) and yet taboo, and even illegal, to support the other half of that same backward Victorian bill (the criminalization of homosexuality).

3/ The age of consent was set at 16 by puritanical feminists (suffragettes) in the UK, and that same bill (and age of 16) was a model for similar rises in the age of consent in the USA and elsewhere (also lobbied for by feminists/suffragettes). This is an important point to stress within the context of men’s rights.

 

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Gorgeous 24 year old Meredith Powell rapes children, age 15-17, who begged to be raped

Children Adolescent boys traumatized by sex laws. Meredith Powell, a drop dead gorgeous, bubbly, friendly, young teacher flirted, kissed, gave blow jobs and maybe even more. Meredith Powell is every boy’s wet dream.

Meredith Powell, child rapist sexual predator

Legal System destroys the lives of boys and Meredith Powell

An anonymous person, deluded by feminist and religious conservative sex laws, or just jealous, turned their secret public. Now the young men’s private lives are under world wide scrutiny. They feel the guilt of being the cause of their teacher’s arrest.

Powell, who has taught in the Tacoma Public Schools district since 2012, was busted after district officials received an anonymous tip. They forwarded the tip to local police.

Police say the trysts began after a drunken Powell responded to a text from a former student one night, reports The News Tribune. The student told Powell he was “turned on thinking about her.”

The student took the initiative to be "raped". Yes, he wanted to be "raped" and be "traumatized"

She replied that “he was hot, too.”

That was unwise. But was it terribly traumatizing for the student? See [sexual predator] Meredith Powell Photos 

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Pedophilia apology 33 years ago: withdrawal of candidacy to German Parliament.

Pedophilia apology, 33 years ago, prompts Dagmar Döring to withdraw her candidacy to the German parliament for the Liberal FDP party.

 

The texts were discovered by researcher Franz Walter, hired by the German Green Party to research their own party’s involvement in efforts to decriminalize child sexuality.

40 years ago, the child sex trauma myth and Voodoo theory had not yet become the religious dogma (Disclaimer). The Rind study had not yet been unanimously condemned by the US Congress and Senate. A decent percentage of Germans practiced nudism at most beaches, rivers. So nudes of all ages could be readily seen during summer. Legal Dutch hardcore porn employed 15 and 16 year old actresses engaging in sex acts. British newspapers had topless 15 and 16 year old page 3 girls.

Dagmar Döhring went beyond Daniel Cohn Bendit. He described how he behaved passively when anti-authoritarian children opened his fly and played with him.

Dagmar Döring stated how she could be only satisfied by a long relation with a girl. Her boy friend had a relation with  13 year old boy that was cruelly ended after it was discovered. Dagmar Döring wrote how she would fight all these unjust cruel laws that criminalized such behavior.

If she were in Britain or the US, she probably would go to prison, once the victims come forward to sue for millions. No real victims are needed. Anyone claiming to have been abused will be automatically believed as there is no due process for those accused of sex crimes.

Human-Stupidity will not take a position towards liberating child sex (disclaimer) But we want to stress the following facts:

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Pedophilia everywhere, in 1970ies Europe. Green Party Daniel Cohn Bendit’s quagmire

Sexual Revolution. Sexual liberation. In the 1960ies, 1970ies, even 1980ies, even bra-burning feminists thought that sexual repression was at the root of most evils.

Trigger warning: links to nude children photos

At age 16, Samantha Fox posed nude for "The Sun"Anti-authoritarian education was in. Age of consent was considered a relic of Victorian sexual repression. Wilhelm Reich’s theory about sexual repression being the root of all evil were main stream progressive creed of progressive leftists.  Reputable magazine’s "Der Spiegel" May 27, 1977 cover depicted nude 11 year old Eva Ionesco on the cover who already had appeared in Playboy October 1976. (Trigger warning: nude child photos)  German newsstands freely sold the magazine Sonnenfreunde (careful, nude children at this Google search link, if you don’t have safe filtering). 16 year-old Samantha Fox appeared nude on page 3 of British Newsmagazine "The Sun". 11 to 15 year old Brooke Shield’s nude photos were everywhere. (Disclaimer). The German Green political party had a committee that favored liberalization of adult child sexuality[1], in similar fashion as Nambla.

 

What would a man do when anti-authoritarian children would open his fly and play with his privates? After all, antiauthoritarian theory would not allow for chastising the children, for repressing their natural curiosity and impulses


German politician and European Parliament member Daniel Cohn Bendit is in hot water. His old writings from the 1970’ies resurfaced, where he describes being accosted and fondled by children.

Back in the early 1970s Cohn-Bendit, who had been declared persona non grata in France and sent back to Germany as a consequence of his involvement in hooliganism and rioting,

Hooliganism and rioting are forgiven and forgotten. In today’s world, we have more pressing problems. Child and Teenage Sexuality. (Disclaimer).

worked as an educator in a day care centre for children that had been set up to make experiments with “anti-authoritarian” education. An essential tenet of the “anti-authoritarian” concept apparently was to confront the children, who were at the time five or six years old, with unbridled sexuality, in order to overcome traditional morality.

We don’t think that children need or ought to be confronted with sexuality. Even in the most repressed society, they occasionally play doctor and show interest in sexual experimentation totally on their own accord.

Later on, Cohn-Bendit wrote a book about this, describing his experiences as a nursery school teacher in the following terms:

Writing is almost as dangerous as photographing. It is a proof of a crime, but can be denied more easily then a photograph.  Because women like to read child abuse novels, feminists made sure that only the male crime of possession of child porn photos was criminalized while women’s favorite  child abuse novels are best-sellers at Amazon

My flirtations with all children soon acquired a definitely erotic character. I could sense how young girls aged five had already learned how to get off with me…

In the original German text it sounded more like the 5 year old girls were flirting with him (Disclaimer)

It happened several times that some children opened my codpiece and started caressing me. According to the circumstances of each case, I reacted differently, but the children’s wishes posed problems for me… when they insisted, I caressed them in return. I was accused of being a pervert, and there were letters to the City Council, asking whether I was paid for by public funds. Fortunately I had concluded my contract directly with the parents’ board, otherwise I would have been sacked…

It is hard to believe, but in the 1970’ies, there was not much of a child sex trauma myth, teenage sexuality hysteria, or child porn laws. Sexual liberation was considered progressive and adult-child sex (Disclaimer) was considered less offensive then gay sex.

 

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"Hot for Teacher", Paedogeddon: "Pedophilia" Comedy Videos

Adolescent sexuality

“To Catch a Predator” witch hunt by NBC Dateline & “Perverted Justice”” was a successful TV series. Chris Hansen enticed many people (overwhelmingly men) to meet with female and men teen “jail bait” and to get them violently arrested by Swat. To understand the irony of the following spoof you might want to first read “To Catch a Predator” witch hunt by NBC Dateline & “Perverted Justice””.

To Catch a Predator — Hot for Teacher (Video)
Chris Hansen “To catch a predator” spoof with 2 hot blonde teachers after a willing 14 year old boy

Some men’s rights proponents (the antifeminist) would disagree here. They think women “sex offenders” like the ones above should not be cut any slack, if men in the same situation get humiliatingly arrested. We actually agree: Human Stupidity, in its 50 post series about Teenage Sexuality suggested to invert the double standard. Girls mature faster and thus need less protection from sex (if they need any protection at all). Ancient wisdom of the old knew this: all over the world, minimum marriage age for girls was lower then for boys.

Don’t miss the YouTube Spoof of “Catch a Predator”: Absurdity of Underage Sex Entrapment, a hilarious spoof of a healthy male lusting after willing 17 year old pussy.

Adult Child Sex

Adult child sex is a very different issue. Like the following spoof, we take issue with modern pedo-hysteria. It is generally assumed that the average adult male is a danger to pre-pubescent children. We believe that the vast majority of normal males have no sexual interest whatsoever in pre-pubescent children.

Pedophile hunters are more dangerous then most pedophiles (who might feel an attraction without the need of acting it out).

Paedogeddon Video

Adolescent sexuality

"To Catch a Predator" witch hunt by NBC Dateline & "Perverted Justice"" was a successful TV series. Chris Hansen enticed many people (overwhelmingly men) to meet with female and men teen "jail bait" and to get them violently arrested by Swat. To understand the irony of the following spoof you might want to first read "To Catch a Predator" witch hunt by NBC Dateline & "Perverted Justice"".

To Catch a Predator — Hot for Teacher (Video)
Chris Hansen “To catch a predator” spoof with 2 hot blonde teachers after a willing 14 year old boy

Some men’s rights proponents (the antifeminist) would disagree here. They think women "sex offenders" like the ones above should not be cut any slack, if men in the same situation get humiliatingly arrested. We actually agree: Human Stupidity, in its 50 post series about Teenage Sexuality suggested to invert the double standard. Girls mature faster and thus need less protection from sex (if they need any protection at all). Ancient wisdom of the old knew this: all over the world, minimum marriage age for girls was lower then for boys.

Don’t miss the YouTube Spoof of "Catch a Predator": Absurdity of Underage Sex Entrapment, a hilarious spoof of a healthy male lusting after willing 17 year old pussy.

Adult Child Sex

Adult child sex is a very different issue. Like the following spoof, we take issue with modern pedo-hysteria. It is generally assumed that the average adult male is a danger to pre-pubescent children. We believe that the vast majority of normal males have no sexual interest whatsoever in pre-pubescent children.

Pedophile hunters are more dangerous then most pedophiles (who might feel an attraction without the need of acting it out).

Paedogeddon Video

Adolescent sexuality

"To Catch a Predator" witch hunt by NBC Dateline & "Perverted Justice"" was a successful TV series. Chris Hansen enticed many people (overwhelmingly men) to meet with female and men teen "jail bait" and to get them violently arrested by Swat. To understand the irony of the following spoof you might want to first read "To Catch a Predator" witch hunt by NBC Dateline & "Perverted Justice"".

To Catch a Predator — Hot for Teacher (Video)
Chris Hansen “To catch a predator” spoof with 2 hot blonde teachers after a willing 14 year old boy

Some men’s rights proponents (the antifeminist) would disagree here. They think women "sex offenders" like the ones above should not be cut any slack, if men in the same situation get humiliatingly arrested. We actually agree: Human Stupidity, in its 50 post series about Teenage Sexuality suggested to invert the double standard. Girls mature faster and thus need less protection from sex (if they need any protection at all). Ancient wisdom of the old knew this: all over the world, minimum marriage age for girls was lower then for boys.

Don’t miss the YouTube Spoof of "Catch a Predator": Absurdity of Underage Sex Entrapment, a hilarious spoof of a healthy male lusting after willing 17 year old pussy.

Adult Child Sex

Adult child sex is a very different issue. Like the following spoof, we take issue with modern pedo-hysteria. It is generally assumed that the average adult male is a danger to pre-pubescent children. We believe that the vast majority of normal males have no sexual interest whatsoever in pre-pubescent children.

Pedophile hunters are more dangerous then most pedophiles (who might feel an attraction without the need of acting it out).

Paedogeddon Video

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What is a Pedophile? Hebephile, Ephebophile, Teleiophile, Infantophile

15 year old Brooke Shields - no pedophilia, rather Ephebophilia, or Teleiophilia.

Hebephile, a newly proposed diagnostic classification in which people display a sexual preference for children at the cusp of puberty, between the ages of, roughly, 11 to 14 years of age. Pedophiles, in contrast, show a sexual preference for clearly prepubescent children. There are also ephebophiles (from ephebos, meaning “one arrived at puberty” in Greek), who are mostly attracted to 15- to 16-year-olds; teleiophiles (from teleios, meaning, “full grown” in Greek), who prefer those 17 years of age or older); and even the very rare gerontophile (from gerontos, meaning “old man” in Greek), someone whose sexual preference is for the elderly. So although child sex offenders are often lumped into the single classification of pedophilia, biologically speaking it’s a rather complicated affair. Some have even proposed an additional subcategory of pedophilia, “infantophilia,” to distinguish those individuals most intensely attracted to children below six years of age.
Based on this classification scheme of erotic age orientations, even the world’s best-known fictitious “pedophile,” Humbert Humbert from Nabokov’s masterpiece, Lolita, would more properly be considered a hebephile. (Likewise the protagonist from Thomas Mann’s Death in Venice, a work that I’ve always viewed as something of the “gay Lolita”).  
Why most "pedophiles" aren’t really pedophiles, technically speaking | Scientific American

Photo of 10 year old Brooke Shields might be just artistic photography. But those who feel sexually attracted are pedophiles.The meaning of the word "Pedophile" was manipulatively changed and distorted. Pedophile is a clearly defined scientific term meaning an adult that has attraction to pre-pubertal children.

We are discussing grammar, semantics, and politics of language manipulation here.
We are not defending or condoning pedophile activities.

Brooke Shields (2008). Is she getting victimized each time one watches her movies or adolescent nude/bikini photos? 1000's times per day?Correct Terminology

Hebephiles, Ephebophiles, Teleiophile were grouped into the "pedophile" group. So a "worse label’ can be attached to a sexual offender. An "adolescent lover" who had a 17 year old girlfriend is called "child lover" (or rather, in a second step of vilification, child rapist). Sure helps to secure longer jail terms and to get the population angry.  This is exactly identical to the manipulation that extended the word "child" from under 12 or under 14, to under 18, admittedly for the purpose of enforcing child protection laws for adolescents.

Additionally, child mutilators and murderers are usually called "pedophiles" in the press. Killing children has nothing to do with "child lovers" or sexual attraction for children.

Brooke Shields re-victimized constantly?

Thus someone gets arrested for possession of Brooke Shields 15 year photos , falsely called a pedophile, and the average Joe thinks he is a baby murderer. Note that the bikini photo of a 15 year-old  becomes child pornography in case one collects the photo for sexual arousal (Copine level 4).

According to child porn persecution theory, "children" (under 18) get re-victimized whenever someone looks at their depictions.. We prevented the re-victimization of Brooke Shields through the first 10 year old photo by putting black bars at all private parts.  Add to this the famous Brooke Shields movies (Blue Lagoon, …) , one can see that Brooke Shields constantly gets re-victimized thousands of times per day by people who watch these movies with an impure mind.

Ruinous persecution of mother and father for innocent  baby bath photos.  It is preposterous to assume that parents or a large number of men are "infantophiles".  We want to stress that attraction to infants is a serious sexual aberration and certainly must not be acted upon.

Infantophiles

Of course, Infant abusers can be labelled with a stronger label then "pedophile". Those attracted to 17 year olds are more ostracised by the incorrect application of the name "pedophile" or child lover, then by "teleiophile", late adolescent lover. To reach the maximum vilification, the word "infantophile" is now, correctly, created. It is undesirable that perverts that mess with infants can hide behind the word "pedophile", which could mean attraction to 9 year olds.

We are discussing grammar, semantics, and politics of language manipulation here. We are not defending or condoning pedophile activities.

There are also law abiding pedophiles who declaredly do not act upon their attraction. These, in spite of being accused merely of thought crimes, are in danger of being hurt by angy pedophile vigilantes.

Other Language manipulation ("rape", "consent")

Human-Stupidity has assailed the manipulative distortion of language is very common in the service of criminalizing adolescent sexuality.  The meaning of "rape" and "consent" have been manipulatively changed, just like "pedophile" and "child".

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Copine/ Sap Scales, Dost Test: Severity of child porn

The COPINE scale was originally developed for therapeutic psychological purposes. More specifically, it is used to distinguish between child erotica and child pornography. […]

In the late 1990s, the COPINE project ("Combating Paedophile Information Networks in Europe") at the University of Cork, in cooperation with the Paedophile Unit of the London Metropolitan Police, developed a typology to categorize child abuse images for use in both research and law enforcement.[4] The ten-level typology was based on analysis of images available on websites and internet newsgroups. Other researchers have adopted similar ten-level scales. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COPINE_scale

http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF215-Kitty_Photographer.jpg

Is the child victimized by the photographer? or is the photographer victimized by the child porn law?

 

SAP scale

In 2002, the sentencing advisory panel (SAP) of England and Wales devised the SAP scale, condensing the different levels of child porn from 10 to 5 It dropped the Copine levels 1 to 3 completely.  The SAP levels indicate increased seriousness of the crime, and are also considered indications of the dangerousness of the offender (which is problematic).  See Sexual deviance: theory, assessment, and treatment.

Dost Test

In order to better determine whether a visual depiction of a minor constitutes a "lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area" under 18 U.S.C. § 2256(2)(A), the court developed six criteria. […]

1) Whether the focal point of the visual depiction is on the child’s genitalia or pubic area.

Harmless photos might become child pornography, when cropped in a way that they emphasize clothed genital areas. Cropping a photo (with emphasis on the genital areas) turns it from a legal mainstream newspaper child swimsuit photo into a heinous child porn photo. It is hard to understand how the child in the photo can be victimized by cropping the photo.

Concerning the lascivious display of clothed genitalia, the Department of Justice described use of the Dost test in child pornography and 2257 documentation regulations in a 2008 rule, writing that the precedent United States v. Knox, 32 F.3d 733 (3d Cir. 1994) did not prohibit ordinary swim team or underwear model photographs, but "although the genitals were clothed in that case, they were covered by thin, opaque clothing with an obvious purpose to draw attention to them, were displayed by models who spread or extended their legs to make the pubic and genital region entirely visible to the viewer, and were displayed by models who danced or gyrated in a way indicative of adult sexual relations." […]

The test was criticized by NYU Law professor Amy Adler as forcing members of the public to look at pictures of children as a pedophile would in order to determine whether they are considered inappropriate. "As everything becomes child pornography in the eyes of the law—clothed children, coy children, children in settings where children are found—perhaps children themselves become pornographic en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dost_test

Everything becomes child pornography. 

You will see in the Copine scale analysis below, that any department store adolescent lingerie catalog can become child pornography, when collected by a man that might get excited by the photos.

Human-Stupidity Analysis

The Copine scale (and the derived Sap scale) is a good attempt to rate child pornography on one dimension, by its "seriousness".

It totally fails to consider 2 other important dimensions

  1. age:  penetrative sex with a toddler or with a 17 year old have the same rating (Copine 9 out of 10). The first causes serious injuries and is surely unnatural. The second is perfectly legal in Europe where the age of consent is 16, a natural legal act between adolescent lovers, still it is one of the most serious levels of child porn. An adolescent couple can legally have sex, but they cannot photograph themselves doing it. Otherwise they get victimized by themselves (?). Human-Stupidity believes they get victimized by the insane laws.
  2. consent vs. non-consent: consensual S/M spanking play of adolescent minors or kidnapping torture are the same (Copine 10, the highest rating)

The Copine scale

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