More child porn insanity! Children nowadays need legal counsel to know if and how they can photograph themselves or have relations with other teenagers, or else they can spend years in jail and remain the rest of their lives on sex offender lists.
US court on ‘sexting’: Child porn or child’s play?
01/15/2010 PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The first criminal case involving “sexting” reached a U.S. appeals court on Friday — a case that asks whether racy cell-phone photos of three girls amount to child pornography or child’s play.A county prosecutor in northeastern Pennsylvania threatened to pursue felony charges if the girls skipped his “re-education” course on such topics as sexual predators and “what it means to be a girl in today’s society.”
The photos show two 12-year-olds in training bras at a sleepover and a topless 16-year-old stepping out of the shower.[. . . ]
“You’re going to see more provocative photos in a Victoria’s Secret catalog,” [ . . . ]
newsok.com/us-court-on-sexting-child-porn-or-childs-play/article/3432301
Feminist “Logic” |
Analogies |
| “Naked pictures of children on the Internet draws predators the same way a swamp draws mosquitoes,” argued lawyer Michael Donohue of Scranton, who represents the prosecutor’s office. Authorities must sometimes protect children from themselves, he argued. newsok.com/3-face-charges-in-texhoma-sexting/article/3480534 | “Texas Chainsaw Massacre” movies really attract chainsaw murderers like a swamp draws moskitoes.
Cop Killer rap music really incites violence against police and school authorities.Soccer stadiums attract violent hooligans like a swamp draws mosquitoes. Let us close down all soccer stadiums. Photos of knives, swords, and guns attract murderers. |
Actually, the analogies are much more convincing then the lawyer’s statement in column 1, which is devoid of any logic or scientifc support. Pure manipulative nonsense. It is intriguing how utter nonsense is socially acceptable whenever it is backed by feminism and women’s studies. No clue about logic and scientific method. But absolute masters in manipulating public opinion.
Here is the root of the insanity. Unproven hysterical statements, with no scientific backing, are the excuse for a witch hunt. Feminists use real predators, real rapists, kidnappers and child murderers as an excuse for their political goals. So innocent girls photographing themselves naked get arrested! Why should it be a crime to photograph yourself? Maybe it is also a crime for the girls to look into the mirror?
I dare to say something really taboo: what is the problem if dirty old men like to look at nude adolescent pictures and do absolutely no harm whatsoever. Why should they get 10 years in jail?
So even if it were true that naked pictures of children on the internet draw predators. For what? To look at photos in the privacy of their home? What is the problem? Maybe this is positive, so they don’t go out trying to check out what real adolescents look like naked.
Compare:
There must be a special evolutionary skill how feminists manage to convince male law makers to support their warped feminist “women studies” logic (Feminist arguments against prostitution debunked)
County officials say they are trying to address the pervasive problem of teens sexting, or exchanging sexually explicit photos and e-mails on their cell phones. According to one study, 20 percent of U.S. teens admit they have done it.
The American Civil Liberties Union considers the images in the Pennsylvania case harmless.
“We’ve been mystified how anybody can look at these photos and say these are second-degree felonies,” Witold J. Walczak, the ACLU of Pennsylvania’s legal director, argued Friday in the U.S. 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals.
Either way, he said, officials are flipping the intent of child-pornography laws — to protect children — by going after the victims. It’s unclear who first disseminated the photographs. Each girl insists she did not.
“Turning them into sex offenders is an odd way to protect kids,” Walczak said after the oral arguments. [ . . .]
School officials in Tunkhannock, about 130 miles north of Philadelphia, found the images in late 2008 on cell phones confiscated from junior and senior high school students. They ranged in age from 11 to 17.
Read more: newsok.com/us-court-on-sexting-child-porn-or-childs-play/article/3432301
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3 face charges in Texhoma ‘sexting’
Published: July 29, 2010TEXHOMA — Three men have been charged with the possession and distribution of obscene images of an underage girl, a Panhandle prosecutor said. He also said he isn’t sure punishments fit the alleged crime.
Eduardo Cisneros, 18, Diego Guzman, 18, and Cruz Holguin, 19, were charged in Texas County on July 16 with distributing nude photos of a 17-year old girl by phones and email, the prosecutor said.
“It’s a crime, and it needs to be addressed,” Texas County District Attorney Michael Boring said.
“But the only option is to charge them with possessing obscene materials and child pornography.”
There are no state laws that specifically address underage “sexting”- related crimes, he said.
Child porn-related convictions would result in the men having felony records. They also would be required to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.
Read more: newsok.com/3-face-charges-in-texhoma-sexting/article/3480534
Older sexting stories
Published on: Oct 19, 2009
six Pennsylvania high school students are facing child pornography charges after three teenage girls allegedly took nude or semi-nude photos of themselves and shared them with male classmates via their cell phones.
The female students at Greensburg Salem High School in Greensburg, Pa., all 14- or 15-years-old, face charges of manufacturing, disseminating or possessing child pornography while the boys, who are 16 and 17, face charges of possession
convictions would have “serious, serious implications,” including forcing them having to register as sexual offenders for at least 10 years.
a survey of 1,280 teens and young adults found that 20 percent of the teens said they had sent or posted nude or semi nude photos or videos of themselves.
Source: MSNBC
Follow up: community service as punishment
Great. The judge showed common sense and convicted them to minor penalties instead of putting them into jail for 5 years and on sex offender lists for 25 years.
GREENSBURG, Pa. — Criminal cases against Greensburg Salem High School students who were caught “sexting” have been resolved in juvenile court.
All six students — three boys and three girls — were sentenced to curfews and community service, and they each got their cell phones back. [. . . ]
“I think it’s actually really foolish for both the school district and the prosecuting attorneys to make an issue of this thing,” defense attorney Dante Bertani said. “I mean, it’s girls sending pictures of themselves to their boyfriends.”Still, Bertani said there’s no doubt that naked pictures of children are child pornography.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/19022180/detail.html
Of course, that still leaves questions:
- why should there be any punishment for taking your own photo, naked or not? why can’t you give your own photo to your boyfriend, husband, father?
- what would be the problem if these photos were in possession of adults, even adults who derive sexual excitement from them? The presumption that these adults will go out raping teens are even more far fetched then the idea that spectators of “Terminator” or “Death Wish” will go out shooting people. Also as late as the 1970’s, mainstream world press would print nude photos of girls as young as 15 (british “page 3 girls”, “Blue Lagoon”) and greek art statues show penises of 4 year old boys.
This is some advice that I came across when I was worried about my child sexting:
Don’t wait for an incident to happen to your child or your child’s friend before you talk about the consequences of sexting. Sure, talking about sex or dating with teens can be uncomfortable, but it’s better to have the talk before something happens.
Remind your kids that once an image is sent, it can never be retrieved — and they will lose control of it. Ask teens how they would feel if their teachers, parents, or the entire school saw the picture, because that happens all the time.
Talk about pressures to send revealing photos. Let teens know that you understand how they can be pushed or dared into sending something. Tell them that no matter how big the social pressure is, the potential social humiliation can be hundreds of times worse.
Teach your children that the buck stops with them. If someone sends them a photo, they should delete it immediately. It’s better to be part of the solution than the problem. Besides, if they do send it on, they’re distributing pornography — and that’s against the law.
If you are concerned about your child sexting, I used an app called Mobileminder to keep an eye on what my son was texting. With Mobileminder I was able to check his text messages, pictures, call logs, etc. from my computer. If you are concerned about your own child I would highly recommend using Mobileminder. The website is www. mobileminder .com
Sexting being treated as a crime, and cyber-bullying being illegal are two of the stupidest things I have ever seen. What next? Assault charges for playground fights. Disorderly conduct for throwing food in the lunch room. Resisting arrest when they throw a temper tantrum..
Sh*t happens. Lets try not to get the police involved unless its really important.
Found this great quote at http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/14-year-old-child-pornographers-sexting-lawsuits-get-serious.ars?comments=1#comment-21395961
14-year old child pornographers? Sexting lawsuits get serious
A 14 year old boy used some undue pressure to convince a 14 year old girl to produce a masturbation video and showed bad character passing it on.
Still it pretty rough for a 14 year old to be saddled with severe felony charges and life long sex offender registration for bad judgment and bad character.
Most 14 year olds probably did not have the legal schooling to be aware of all the dangers of having pictures of themselves and their friends. Sadly, you have to start teaching your 5 year olds about child porn and teenage sex laws.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/14-year-old-child-pornographers-sexting-lawsuits-get-serious.ars/
Child porn law, misapplied, can victimize kids
According to news reports, teenagers who shared video of the alleged gang rape in Pitt Meadows are “freaking out” about the fact that they may face charges of distributing child pornography.
By Vancouver Sun September 22, 2010
Fortunately, Canada has largely avoided such cases, thanks to better prosecutorial judgment and to the Supreme Court of Canada’s 2001 decision in R. vs. Sharpe. While the Criminal Code is broad enough to capture behaviour such as occurred in Pennsylvania, the court fashioned two limited exceptions to the law.
First, the court held that it does not constitute an offence for minors to take explicit pictures of themselves for their own private use. And second, the court exempted the recording of lawful sexual activity between minors, provided the minors share the images only with each other.
This means that a boyfriend and girlfriend can share pictures of themselves engaged in sexual activity without facing the long arm of the law. But if they share those pictures with others, or place them on the Internet, then charges could follow.
Similarly, if minors send explicit pictures of themselves to others, they could, theoretically at least, end up on a sex offender registry.
Source: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/story.html?id=568ec8c8-a097-45ad-abb3-2912674d7cb6&k=37723