Helmut Seifert, 47, an ethnic German originally from Russia, was enraged when he heard his 17-year-old daughter was having a relationship with Phillip Genscher, 57.
He went to police in the town of Bielefeld where he lives but officers said they were powerless to intervene.
“The man then recruited two work colleagues at his factory and then went to the house of the victim,” said police.
“The man was forced to remove his trousers and, fully conscious, he was castrated. The severed testicles were taken away by the perpetrator.”
The man was close to bleeding to death but managed to call police. His life was saved but he remains a eunuch for life. […]
He told police: “I received a phone call anonymously that my daughter was involved with a guy 40 years older than her. You said you couldn’t stop him – so I did.
“I saw it as my duty as a father.”
German man castrates teenage daughter’s 57-year-old boyfriend (The Telegraph)
This was republished here Dad, 47, in Germany castrates man, 57, for dating 17-year-old daughter (NY Daily News)
- Note: nowhere did the article say that the couple actually had sex with each other
- even if they did, the age of consent in Germany is 16, there is absolutely no legal problem
- keep reading to see the murderous scary comments by the NY Daily News Readers
- So a harmless man is mutilated for having an affair with a much younger but legal woman, and the good citizens cheer and want to join the lynching
Naomid
2:59 PM
Dec 13, 2010
Why is everyone calling this guy a perv?? He was DATING the girl, not raping her! If an 18 year old guy was dating her, would you call him a “perv”?? Remember, Charile Chaplin married his wife when he was 54 and she was 17, and they had 8 kids together and stayed married for 30 years until his death, and she never remarried and is now buried next to him. Is that being a perv? If anyone is a perv, it’s a psychopath who cuts off *****. What do you think that is going to do to his daughter? She is going to be terrified to get into any kind of relationship again.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=80&tstart=0#ixzz18gndinDh
Interesting discussion among the NY Daily News Readers
Dangerous vigilantes
| Cheetaralysa
5:50 AM Good for him! as a father it is his duty, parents need to protect their children. a 57 year old man dating a 17 year old he sounds like a child molester. I cant believe most of your responses protecting this pervert! America has gotten soft and that is why our country allows child molester books to go on sale on Amazon.com! regardless of the statuatory age limit in Germany russia whatever the mind of a 17 and a 57 year old dont match. the father did what he did and didnt even give up his boys…i salute him. that pervert will be scarred for life, im sure he molested other young girls guaranteed. america stop being soft. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=160&tstart=0#ixzz18gutleNJ |
kitty62862
2:02 PM Why? A 17 year old has zero emotional maturity; won’t for about 10 more years. There is no way on the face of this earth that man isn’t out for totally fresh tail. Do that to my baby, pray that I only castrate you. We’ve taught her well, but someone who is determined sometimes succeeds. There’s no way that relationship is ok. No way. At 17, you are still legally responsible. I called my husband to tell him about this. This is what he said: “You help me, then cut yourself a plea deal and testify against me” We love our daughter, end of story. It is not ok at 17. It is not ok under 25. Period. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=40&tstart=0#ixzz18gh3mZdE |
| iluvbball
12:24 PM Good for him, at least this child molester wont harm anybody else’s child. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502#ixzz18gdgiW00 |
sadtruth
1:10 AM I don’t blame him for doing that to a 57 year old parasite. She may be a siren but she’s young and still much the immature adolescent. The old man ought to have known better than take advantage of this woman. He’s lucky that all he lost were his *****… Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=160&tstart=0#ixzz18gvlxMlo |
| StoutKraut
8:10 AM You might say that I’m over reacting, but if he was dating my daughter, after I cut ’em off, I’d make sure he would be eating them for dinner! Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=140&tstart=0#ixzz18gw8DJg9 |
ibmtech
9:49 AM The senior citizen won’t have the ***** to take the 47 year old to court.. My hat is off to the father. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=140&tstart=0#ixzz18gwPz7Gx |
| Toy
12:54 PM Good for him…..I wouldn’t find that guy guilty of anything other than a decent sense of justice… LEt the moron how fouled his daughter take his stones home in a jar, and think about if it was worth it… (snicker) Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=140&tstart=0#ixzz18gwcLogu |
kitty62862
1:07 PM I have a daughter this age. My husband would do the very same thing, and I would help. Bank on it. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502#ixzz18gdruAyn |
| chanchis
2:32 PM This man deserves a trophy, not jail time. |
KOOLPOPPA
2:35 PM MY HERO. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=60&tstart=0#ixzz18gjzHzhs |
| kenman
1:43 PM Good for the dad. He should have fried them up and made the daughter eat them…kinda like finding your kid smoking and making them smoke a whole pack of cigs in the closet until they finish. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=20&tstart=0#ixzz18gekaw6j |
MariaLatin
11:16:13 PM Good for Dad!! Only way to stop these old coots from praying on young girls, he got what he deserved. I hope it will be a trend around the world. Best way to handle this type of thing – he’ll live, not well but he does not deserves more than that. Child molesters next. |
| oharris303
3:16 PM OUCH!! My daughter is 18 and I would do the same even though she is on her own. Nasty old men. Disgusting! Date within your own age range. Disgusting seeing these old coots with young women, don’t care who they are. Loose their money and loose the young woman. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=80&tstart=0#ixzz18goD08gJ |
LucilleG
11:56 PM It’s good to see men taking their parental responsibilities seriously. If we had more of what this father did in this country, particularly pertaining to domestic abuse and rape, all women in this county would have a better life. I hope the jury has mercy on this dad and gives him probation or a very short jail sentence. Also, next time a father tells a man to stay away from his daughter they will remember this case and heed his warning. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=120&tstart=0#ixzz18gq5QSf3 |
| shari123
1:14 PM OUCHHHHH, too extreme for a 17 yr old. If his daughter was 10 yrs younger, then i would say kudos to the dad. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502#ixzz18ge4Vle6 |
The correct legal situation info about German law
brooklynNYC
1:14:58 PM
Dec 14, 2010The age of consent in Germany is 14, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14–15 year-old person’s lack of capacity for sexual self-determination. In this rare and special case, a conviction on an individual over the age of 21 requires a complaint from the younger individual; being over 21 and engaging in sexual relations with a minor of that age does not constitute an offense in and of itself. Otherwise the age of consent is 14 As specified by Sections 176 (Sexual abuse of children) and 182 (Sexual abuse of youths), which read: § 176: “(1) Whoever commits sexual acts on a person under fourteen (14) years of age (a child) or allows them to be committed on himself by the child, shall be punished by imprisonment from six months to ten years […]” § 180: “(1) Whoever abets the commission of sexual acts of a person under sixteen years of age on or in front of a third person or sexual acts of a third person on a person under sixteen years of age: 1. by actin
Positive and understanding opinions
anabelle23
4:23:30 PM
Dec 14, 2010
the little strumpet knew EXACTLY what she was doing. this entire puritanical hypocrisy is the stuff puke is made from. the older man probably treated her better than most young men who pretend to love, deflower, and dump leaving them emotionally scarred and damaged. the father was wrong, wrong, wrong – hope they castrate him then throw him into a gay prison for 20 years. there is a reason why girls can make babies at 13 so stop pretending they are innocent little angels. some of them are more savvy and cunning than professional streetwalkers.
Chad66
1:47 PM
Dec 13, 2010
The girl likes older men. So who cares. Or was Daddy jealous because she was dating this other guy and not her own Daddy. Beisdes, like someone mentioned, nothing was said about having sex. AND why did Daddy need other people to help him. And if she likes older ment , there will always be older men around. Daddy should get 40 years in jail. at lest.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=40&tstart=0#ixzz18gg3eB4A
lebinz
1:51 PM
Dec 13, 2010
You’re all talking about two different things. 1. whether or not this is a child molestation case (i tend to think that this is an insult to REAL cases where 9 and 12 year are being raped), and 2. whether older men should date younger women. The first is clear, the children should be protected, the second is not only stupid, but insulting to women. Just like we shouldn’t be telling women what to do with their own bodies; just like it is wrong for muslim women to be stoned for cheating; we should respect their decision. Whether you feel comfortable or not isn’ the issue, that is your opinion and it is none of your business.
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lebinz
1:55 PM
Dec 13, 2010
And it is funny how, as a manager, I can’t tell a 20yr old “I don’t hire women so young” but we as total strangers can say who they get to date and who they don’t get to date. Even by imposing restrictions on the “age limit” they are allowed to date is simply treating them like a piece of property. No one says this about boys. Boys do whatever they want with whomever they want. Demmi Moore picks up someone younger than she is and she gets a pat on the back. Donald Trump dates a model and people are angry. Women are property. Simple as that. This is why some of you are so outrage at the simple fact that there is an age difference.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502&start=40&tstart=0#ixzz18gghjRrQ
plsstoptheHate101
1:49 PM
Dec 13, 2010
Josie911 I take personal offense to your statement because I am one of those that has benefited from Viagra, and I am putting my 19yr old girlfriend to college. So what do we have in common, she is getting a free education and I keep a smile on my face, what is wrong with that.
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plsstoptheHate101
2:17 PM
Dec 13, 2010
I was going Yeah good for him until I realise that I am 55 and dating a 19yr old…thanks to Viagra she is very happy. I tell you what, there is not a young man today if he lives to be an old man who will not appreciate Viagra. Pryor to Viagra men committed suicide.
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OBJ
3:19 PM
Dec 13, 2010
Zeke: And Hindus and French Catholics and Canadian. In much of the world young women marry older men for stability and security. Their philosophy is why marry a guy and be with him during the struggling years when you can marry someone who is already established. And end up a well-off widow.
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Violent reactions
RickEvans033050
7:57:08 AM
Dec 20, 2010
The number of sociopath posters applauding this guy’s actions is appalling. Yes the age difference is disturbing however a 17 year old is not a little girl. Also, using ‘man’ to describe him is a stretch considering the coward had to recruit a couple of thug pals to restrain the victim. It’s one thing for this 47 year old to man-up and go one-on-one against the 57 year old victim over his daughters’ “honor”. This was a cowardly lynching
giantnyc
12:21 PM
Dec 13, 2010
While involvement with a teenager is despicable, I generally do not agree that people should be left to impose their brand of justice. Disguisting, yes, but was the low-life committing an illegal act? Was she at the age of legal consent? What if the father decides other things are his duty; restrictions based on religion, race, political leanings, anyone older than any age he decides is too old? Where is the limit? That is tough to say, but there is the law. He should probably have put on his thinking cap on and addressed why his young daughter is getting involved with an old man in the first place. Instead, he will be in jail, unable to help his daughter deal with her issues. Maybe this was more about him than his daughter. I dunno.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118502#ixzz18gdTvsUd
In truth, this was motivated by racism. Phillip Genscher, 57, is a black rapper and the perpetrator, Helmut Seifert came from Russia.
you write “the age of consent in Germany is 16,”
Unless it’s been changed recently,
– the age of consent is 14
– it’s illegal for sb > 21 to exploit a 14–15 year-old person’s lack of capacity for sexual self-determination.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Germany
I hope they lock this piece of shit “vigilante dad” up and throw away the key.
It was painful to even imagine what that 57y old man must have gone through.But what makes me sadder are those monsters in the comments section who are cheering for what happened.I noticed that most of them are women who have no idea what it must feel to a man.
A 17 year old is hardly immature .Read the Robert Epstein research that I posted earlier.
The Charlie Chaplin case is a good example of how insane the society has become today.