Years of Jail for "clicking on child porn link". But lynching videos are legal.

Years of Jail for “clicking on child porn link” & possessing 2 grainy tiny  thumbnail pictures of nude adolescents. But lynching videos are legal.

Possession of videos depicting vigilantism, lynching mob killing people, child beating, gang killings, and Hollywood movies glorifying gore, torture, and violence, that is perfectly legal! Real physical toddler torture and abuse gets less punishment then possession of nude adolescent photos. Human Stupidity at its worst.!

Roderick Vosburgh, a doctoral student at Temple University who also taught history at La Salle University, was raided at home in February 2007 after he allegedly clicked on the FBI’s hyperlink. Federal agents knocked on the door around 7 a.m., falsely claiming they wanted to talk to Vosburgh about his car. Once he opened the door, they threw him to the ground outside his house and handcuffed him.
Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html

Raiding the house of a suspect of nonviolent crime. Throwing him on the ground and handcuffing him instead of a dignified arrest notice. The government specifies the amount of jail he can get:

If convicted, the defendant faces a maximum possible sentence of 45 years imprisonment, a mandatory minimum of 5 years imprisonment, a $750,000 fine, 3 years of supervised release, and a special assessment of $300.
Source: http://www.justice.gov/usao/pae/News/Pr/2007/mar/vosburgh.html

This is totally insane witch hunt, I have no better words for this. Criminalizing ATTEMPTS to get DEPICTIONS of nude teenagers where nobody was harmed and where nobody committed an illegal or dangerous act.

Vosburgh was charged with violating federal law, which criminalizes “attempts” to download child pornography with up to 10 years in prison. Last November, a jury found Vosburgh guilty on that count, and a sentencing hearing is scheduled for April 22, at which point Vosburgh could face three to four years in prison.

The implications of the FBI’s hyperlink-enticement technique are sweeping. Using the same logic and legal arguments, federal agents could send unsolicited e-mail messages to millions of Americans advertising illegal narcotics or child pornography–and raid people who click on the links embedded in the spam messages. The bureau could register the “unlawfulimages.com” domain name and prosecute intentional visitors. And so on.
Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html

Vosburgh was convicted on these counts: “clicking on an illegal hyperlink” and “possessing a hard drive with two grainy thumbnail images of naked female minors (the youths weren’t having sex, but their genitalia were visible)”  “From the FBI’s perspective, clicking on the illicit hyperlink and having a thumbs.db file with illicit images are both serious crimes.” (all quotes from above cnet article)

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Dangerous pedophile hunters threaten harmless pedophile (Jack McClellan)

Jack McClellan is a totally harmless child lover who refrains from acting out his impules. Most pedophiles are totally or fairly harmless.( But public opinion, on purpose, confuses the harmless  guy attracted to children or adolescents with  dangerous criminal child mutilators and murderers).. Pedophile hunters bash these people with baseball bats, murder them, threaten their lives, harrass them.  Talkshow hosts and youtube commentators threaten them with deadly violence. Non-violent "pedophiles" get put in jail for 70 or 240 years, without proof or with manipulated proof, where they are likely to get violently raped, Lightly fondling an adolescent carries much higer prison terms then torture, mutilation, and murder. Normal adolescent sexuality carries strict penalties,  too. And, unlike murderers, arsonists and robbers, the lifel long US sex offender registration prevents these nonviolent people from living normal lives, working, and puts them in risk of  vigilanteism. That I also consider (institutional) violence.

 

"Law abiding pedophile" gets persecuted

Jack McClellan publicly outed himself as a "law abiding pedophile". He admits feeling sexual attraction for children, but never touched one sexually.

He took photos of cute children and put it on a web site for other pedophiles to delight in, but he always stressed that everyone should refrain from doing anything illegal.

While it is perfectly understandable that parents worry about their kids, it is very clear that Jack McClellan is being singled out for thought crimes, for crimes he has not even committed and does not plan to commit.

In California, he got slapped with a restraining order to stay 20 (?) yards away from children, which makes it impossible for him to even go to a grocery store or walk on a busy street.

Why, on the other hand, do violent repeat offenders, like robbers, bullies, street fighters not get the same attention. There is no national robber registry.

 

 

Why do we only have a sex offender registry? Why not one with ALL criminals online? Let us create an arson offender registry?

Why do a repeat arsonists, multiple robbers, murderers not get registered?

Why don’t we get warned if an arsonist or a child murderer moves into our neighborhood?

This is a very legitimate question. Why should we not warned if really dangerous criminals live near us?

 

The dangerousness of the pedophile hunters (see these youtube threats & comments)

  1. Note that these people want to kill Jack McClellan, the "law abiding pedophile"
  2. A harmless guy who enjoys young girls, but never harmed one and never touched a minor sexually.
  3. His main problem is that he is naive enough to be out of the closet. He is honest, he admits his sexual attraction to young girls 4-11. If he kept quiet, he would not have a problem.

 

  • Geitje007 @mumuluku123
    I would have done the same!!! Torture him foreverrrrr fucking bastard!!!! 1 week ago
  • MaIcoImZieI @mumuluku123 You are so full of shit. You act like this guy actually mudererd and raped people. Shut the fuck up man. I’m sick of people like you talking shit about how you are going to torture paedophiles. Shut the fuck up. 1 week ago
  • sarahsmith995 i hope he dies a horrid death! 1 week ago
  • Kingler91 do a suicide, and tell all ur subscribers at that fucking website of yours to do the same, and maybe people will let their children out.
    Hope you die with alot of suffering. Would laugh my ass off if i saw you dead in the street. Fuck you. Goodbye 2 weeks ago
  • TheN1PlaylistChannel @mumuluku123 i wish i would see this animal in the street so i could punch him so hard that he would end up like a vegetable in his death bed i hope he ends up in prison OF COURSE FOR ANOTHER CRIME AND NOT HURTING AN INNOCENT CHILD and ones this animal is in prison for all the inmates to rape him and stab him to death.THE WAY I SEE IT ANYBODY HURTS AN INNOCENT CHILD DESERVES A BULLET TO THE HEAD PERIOD NO MERCY 3 weeks ago

 

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“Child Porn” Witch Hunt: Insane Laws

“Child Pornography” is a relatively new crime, invented in the last few decades. Simple possession of “child pornography” in a computer cache (an automatic storage of browsers) can yield extreme jail sentences, higher then for crimes like non-sexual child mutilation, violent beatings, attempted murder. I will, however, list a host of absurd illogical facts and laws, mainly from Europe.

  1. Language gets distorted on purpose, for propagandistic effects, worse then under Nazi Minister Goebbels 
    • in most countries’ laws, children are under 14 years old
    • pornography normally are sexually explicit actions, not nude solo acts
    • now, suddenly, by definition, under 18 year olds are “children”, and nude photos are pornography. Well, erotic youth photos does not sound as jail-worthy as “child pornography”
    • in Europe, specifically in Germany, pictures of someone “appearing under 18” (scheinjugendlich, scheinminderjährig) now is being redefined as “child pornography”. In other words, a young looking 25 year old, that looks like a 17 year old youth, is being called a child.
    • I write “child pornography” in quotes, because a picture that neigher contains a child, nor is pornographic can be called “child pornography”
  2. Until the 1980ies today’s “child porn” was main stream entertainment.
    • main stream Hollywood movies like the Blue Lagoon showed underage sensual nudity and and pretended sexual intercourse of underage actors pretending to be underage people. A clear case of child porn by today’s laws
    • British newspaper “page 3” nude girls were routinely 16 years or older
    • German youth magazines had nude teenage photos, routinely, partially for sex education
    • nudes of all ages, 3, 5, 10, 15, 20 years old, were shown in publicly sold magazines about FKK, the german nudity culture
    • in Germany nude bathing is wide spread, on beaches and rivers even inside cities like Munich, nudes of all ages can be seen live. So photos of what everyone can see at any time didn’t really look like a crime.
    • Antique greek statues show little nude boys with their sexual organs
    • In Holland and Denmark, hard core porn with 16 year olds was legal. If someone legally bought or downloaded this, now he is a hard core criminal facing decades of jail. I wonder what the reason is for these laws. Who will be protected by these penalties? Interestingly, most of these movies were quite tastefully erotic, different from many abusive porn movies sold nowadays with over 18 year old actresses (for a negative example, do NOT look at germangoogirls.com).
  3. Why can a photo of a perfectly legal act be a heinous crime?
    • In Europe, Sex with 16 year olds is perfectly legal. So why a photo or movie of such a perfectly legal act is a very serious crime? Production, possession, passing on
    • maybe it is a crime if a 16 year old looks into the mirror while having sex? If he films himself and looks at the movie, obviously that is a heinous crime.
    • what if our 16 year-olds get caught by a surveillance camera. Who then is the criminal? What if security personell looks at the surveillance movie. Should they delete it or turn in to police?
  4. What is the purpose of these laws? Do they protect children or adolescents?
    • Prohibiting movies that were legally produced in highly civilized countries like Netherlands does not protect anyone. It seems that nobody got damaged when shooting the movie under such perfectly legal circumstances. If anyone got damaged, it is too late to fix it. The movie has been shot already, nothing can be changed. It only prevents the girls or the studio from receiving more income.
    • Prohibiting drawings, photoshop art, etc: no child was harmed producing this.
    • “watching photos or videos of nude adolescents makes people pedophile so that they will abuse and rape children”. A desperate attempt to justify the absurd. Problems:
    • no proof exists for that watching porn makes people rapists, nor watching child porn makes people child rapists.
    • It seems to be the opposite. , watching porn can be cathartic so people will NOT become violent
    • Why don’t laws prohibit violent movies, chainsaw massacres, shootings, beatings? I think it is very damaging to see movie heroes that never call the police but rather, as role models, beat up the bad guys with their own hands

So much stupidity. So little time to write about it.

Unfortunately, most of the literature I found is in German. Please post quotes of English texts.

http://schutzalter.twoday.net/
http://www.lawblog.de/index.php/archives/2007/01/12/kinderpornografie-ein-blick-ins-gesetz/
http://forum.spiegel.de/showthread.php?t=12149 http://blog.beck.de/2008/11/06/jugendpornographieverbot-seit-05november-in-kraft

Pedophilia witch hunt discussed by academia and press

  1. First a story about a toddler that had to die because a man was afraid to help, due to the pedophilia hysteria.

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    An extreme defense of pedophilia
  2. Then Professor Harris Mirkin’s thesis that criminalization of “pedophilia” is like gay criminalization and psychiatrization of homosexuality 50 years ago and that childrens’ right to sexuality should eventually win.
  3. Judith Levine’s book, Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children from Sex
  4. Alfred Kinsey a pedophile? He observed orgasms of children and adolescents during his University Research.
  5. More unbiased academic discussions about pedophilia
  6. And of course there is our prior article about persecution of academic research in the case of the Rind Study

There was one small detail that jumped out at me in the tragic story of Abigail Rae, the two-year-old who wandered off from her village playgroup and ended up dying in a garden pond. Tucked away at the end of yesterday’s inquest report was a line about how Clive Peachey, a bricklayer, drove past a child on her own, whom he later concluded had been Abby.

She was not walking straight, she was tottering, said Mr Peachey. “I kept thinking should I go back? One of the reasons I did not go back is because I thought someone would see me and think I was trying to abduct her.”

The hysteria over paedophilia hangs like some dark cloud over almost every interaction nowadays between a man and a child that isn’t his.

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3352895/Day-of-the-dad-paedophilia-hysteria-leaves-men-afraid-to-help.html

Professor Mirkin got himself into deep trouble defending that consensual sex with an adolescent is not the same as raping the same adolescent. Similar to a Dutch law, Professor Mirkin contends that the age of consent should be 12 years, as long as the adolescent’s consent can be proven.

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Family pictures of nude baby bath: ruinous child porn prosecution

Innocent bath photo got parents on sex offender listChildren were taken from their parents into protective custody for over a month, because of pictures taken at bath time. Parents lost their jobs, spent US$ 75,000 and got registered as sex offenders. This is an example of how the child porn hysteria goes totally overboard.

(This is not an isolated case, here a story about a snapshot of a mother breast-feeding her child got parents indicted by a grand jury as kiddie porn producers and child abusers ). But back from “breast feeding porn” to the “bathing photos kiddie porn” persecution.

For A.J. and Lisa Demaree, the photos they snapped of their young daughters were innocent and sweet.

But after a photo developer at Walmart thought otherwise, the Demarees found themselves in a yearlong battle to prove they were not child pornographers.

Coppertone ad: cute in the 1970ies, now child porn and bestiality?
Coppertone ad: cute in 1970ies, nowadays potentially child porn and even bestiality?

“I don’t’ understand it at all,” A.J. Demaree told “Good Morning America” Monday. “Ninety-nine percent of the families in America have these exact same photos.”

Sources:http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/arizona-couple-suing-bathtime-photos-prompt-wal-mart/story?id=8624533

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History of child pornography production and laws, told by an insider

Found a ong, very interesting article by an insider in child porn. He makes a lot of interesting points

  1. from antiquity until a few decades ago, children’s nudity was object of arts, of photographers, painters, sculptures. Today’s witch hunt that jails children for photographing themselves in the nude and passing their own photograph to their boyfriends (sexting) is new.
  2. mainstream movies and magazines showed nude adolescents in scenes whose production or even viewing nowadays would be punished by decades of jail terms.
  3. actual child abuse was fairly rare, lots of models actually enjoyed the shootings (we are talking about posing and not acts that are totally unnatural for their age)
  4. Internet censorship and blocking programs don’t work because the child porn industry nowadays is so tech savvy that these measures only catch the amateurs.

Source of the long article: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/My_life_in_child_porn Original german version of the source

In the past, child and adolescent sex was considered normal.  Even exaggerated examples from religious books did not shock people

Mohammed married Aisha at age 6 or 9 (http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/aishamarriage.pdf http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm )

Many biblical commentators believe that Rebekah was still a child when she married Isaac, while Isaac was forty years of age ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham )

Brooke Shields 15 years in PeopleMagazine
Brooke Shields 15 years in People Magazine

Since antique times, artists could show children and adolescents nude. Mainstream movies and magazines printed nude photos of 14 year old girls up to the 1980ies or later, which nowadays would be a crime punishable by many years in jail not only for the producers but also for the spectators and buyers. Actually, artists nowadays frequently get prosecuted for depicting children.( http://users.rcn.com/kyp/witchprc.html )

Shields’ first major film role was her 1978 appearance in Louis Malle’s Pretty Baby, a movie in which she played a child who lived in a brothel (and in which there were numerous nude scenes).[1] Because she was only 12 when the film was released, and possibly 11 when it was filmed, questions were raised about child pornography.[7][8][9] This was followed by a slightly less controversial and less notable film, Wanda Nevada (1979).

After two decades of movies, her best known films are still arguably The Blue Lagoon (1980), which included a number of nude scenes between teenage lovers on a tropical island (Shields later testified before a U.S. Congressional inquiry that older body doubles were used in some of them) and Endless Love (1981). She won the People’s Choice Award in the category of Favorite Young Performer in four consecutive years from 1981 to 1984.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooke_Shields

Nowadays, parents get prosecuted for taking nude photos of their babies in the bath tub, and teenagers arrested for taking nude photos of themselves.

History of child sex and child porn

Very interesting article by an insider from the child porn scene.

Source: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/My_life_in_child_porn Original german version of the source

In the Middle Ages, when the life expectancy was still significantly lower, the puberty began later than today and adolescents in the age range 12-18 years were set up for marriage. This changed increasingly. Naked, erotically depicted boys and girls have always been in the center of the art. As photography became popular at the end of the 18th Century, also erotic act descriptions with children and young people were made. At the end of the 60s there was a magazine called Lolita, produced by the Danish company “Color Climax”, that had sex between children and between children and adults as the subject. </ p>

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Teenage boy jailed and sentenced for consensually kissing teenage girl (Marco Weiss-Charlotte-Turkey)

A 17 year old boy kissed a 13 year old boy who had lied she was 15. Mother found out,  German boy spends 8 months in Turkish prisons with 30 adult prisoners in a cell and now gets a 2 1/2 year suspended sentence. He could have gotten 8 years.

Why does the press not call this stupid insanity by name? Society was brainwashed so the teenage sex witch hunt continues unabated.

Marco Weiss had kissed a British girl Charlotte in Turkey.

A 17-year-old German student faces up to eight years in Turkish prison. His offense? Kissing and fondling a 13-year-old British girl who allegedly lied about her age.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,490525,00.html

A Turkish court has sentenced a German teenager to a suspended prison term of  two-and-a-half years for sexual abuse of a 13-year-old girl.

As usual, this is where the manipulative lies start. Consensual sexual activity is called “sexual abuse”. Just because it involves a minor. The law distorting facts, worse then any Nazi propaganda. A kiss is a kiss, abuse is abuse. A consensual kiss is not abuse or rape.
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Italian arrested in Fortaleza (Brazil) for kissing (2 pecks) his 8 year old daughter

An Italian man was arrested and charged with rape. His crime: he kissed his 8 year old daugher on the mouth, an innocent custom in Italy. He is also accused of fondling his daugher, seems he straightened out the daughter’s bathing suit. His wife and mother of the child, who was present during all the ordeal, is in shock, as her husband has been in jail for days already. The kid was interviewed by police and was in no way disturbed about the father’s behavior.

He is jailed in a common cell with 15 common criminals. It is known that in Brazil criminals rape and abuse prisoners accused of raping and abusing children.

Sources: http://www.corriere.it/cronache/09_settembre_03/brasile_arresto_italiano_0a0dd620-98ba-11de-b8d4-00144f02aabc.shtml http://www.estadao.com.br/estadaodehoje/20090904/not_imp429426,0.php