Fathers rights defenders at AvoiceForMen call themselves MHRA, men’s human rights activists. They defend the rights of fathers and family men, and even some rights for boys. Glaringly absent is the defense of sexual rights for men and boys. Feminists and religious zealots have united to create draconic sex laws. The declared goal of the suffragettes was to use the power of the vote to increase the age of consent and to close brothels and to end prostitution.
These clueless male equal rights feminists MHRA put up this nice touching movie about a 16 year old boy with his jailbait girlfriend. No mention about the serious dangers this boy is in:
Prostitution laws restrain women’s choice to make easy money by exploiting men’s need for sex, proximity and love. As a side effect, they fill up US prisons with felons guilty of victimless crimes.
After a single prostitution conviction, suspects can face a felony in a subsequent arrest, which Gainer calls “draconian.”
“Most states in the country don’t do it like we do it. Only eight states have a statute for felony prostitution — and Illinois is one of them,” Gainer told the Sun-Times. “With the jail hitting its limits in population, it’s incumbent for us to look at who actually needs to spend two months in jail awaiting trial,” she said, noting her research shows the cost of jailing suspected prostitutes costs upwards of $9.5 million. “There are better options.”
Under a resolution introduced Wednesday at the regular County Board meeting, officials are also urging the state Legislature to amend Illinois law and wipe the felony prostitution charge off the books.
Sadly, the main concern is not with the poor victims of repressive sex laws: the prostitutes offering their services to men in need for sex and companionship, or the men who seek entertainment, sex, companionship and are willing to pay for that.
The main worry are overcrowded prisons, and government expenses for imprisoning people who commit victimless crimes.
Elected officials in Chicago are calling for a moratorium on felony charges for prostitution to reduce overcrowding at Cook County jail. The jail now houses 10,008 detainees and is likely to exceed the maximum capacity of 10,150 soon. In a news conference Wednesday, several county commissioners pointed to the law’s disproportionate focus on non-violent felonies like prostitution: […]
Double standard: men punished more harshly then women
If a man did the same, would it be called "underage sex"? No, it would be called rape. So there certainly is a double standard.
Would a man get away with 5 years? A man probably would get 15 to 25 years in jail.
In a TV interview, would a man not be treated much worse?
Sex has more serious consequences for boys then for girls: The double standard should be inverted!
In this modern age boys need more protection then girls (due to slower maturation, existing laws and scientific progress)
adolescent girls mature faster then boys, physically, intellectually and psychologically. Legal age for marriage was, and still is much lower for girls then for boys in most countries in the world (Marriagable Age | Wikipedia, Elisabethan marriage customs, Historical Age of Marriage). This has also to do with gender roles with the more mature man the provider and protector.
pregnancy, the real sex-induced "damage" to girls can be avoided by birth control. Girls have total freedom to decide if they carry a pregnancy to term or use their reproductive freedom for an early term abortion.
Things have changed since the EEA, where evolution has shaped our inborn moral feelings, and since biblical times, when our religious code was written down. Fairly recently, we devised birth control, abortion, DNA tests, government welfare and legal child support obligation for men.
In biblical times and the EEA, a girl had no option to avoid pregnancy through birth control, no option to terminate pregnancy through (early term) abortion, no courts nor police state pursuing the father for support (except shotgun weddings due to pressure by the girl’s kin), no government welfare, no child care and job opportunities for single mothers. And her marriage prospects would have gotten really dim after having an out of wedlock baby.
Thus, girls and women can have risk-free sex with no long term consequences.
Boys, on the other hand are totally powerless once a woman got pregnant. Boys/men have absolutely no chance to avoid the serious trauma of
decades of enforced ruinous child support and alimony duty
with no automatic visitation rights to even see the child or influencing how the money is spent.
No rights but payment duties enforced by police and prison, not much different from slavery.
Thanks to the AntiFeminist for calling our attention to some of the above issues.
Now that we clarified that adolescent boys are in more need of protection then girls, Human-Stupidity dares to question if any adolescent needs government protection against his/her own decisions.
Are draconian punishments needed to protect adolescents from their own actions and decisions?
Valeria Ajovalasit’s Arquidonna women’s rights group sues Italian president Silvio Berlusconi. For violating laws enacted due to pressure by the same feminist groups, based on false manipulated data, warped logic and under abuse of male chivalry and concern about women’s well being. [Similar issues are at the US supreme court in the Wal-Mart class action suit).
Valeria Ajovalasit, president of Arquidonna women’s rights group, feels degraded by Italy’s president Silvio Berlusconi’s allegedly paying a beautiful 17 year old for sex. For wrongly paying money to a girl that wanted money, Valeria Ajovalasit and Arquidonna now want Berlusconi to pay all women of Italy, without receiving sex in return.
Ruby ‘the heart stealer’ cashes in: The woman at the centre of sex allegations surrounding Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has cashed in on her fame by appearing in an Italian commercial.
An Italian women’s rights group has asked the court overseeing Silvio Berlusconi’s sex trial for the right to seek compensation from the prime minister, claiming that he has offended the dignity of all Italian women. Italian women seek compensation from Silvio Berlusconi| The Telegraph
Amazing how easy it is to offend the dignity of all Italian women. Now feminist laws that were enacted in the last 50 years gravely offend the dignity of men by criminalizing more and more behavior that formerly was normal and legitimate.
Berlusconi could legally have sex with that woman, but if he gives her money, then it is illegal, thanks to laws enacted by the same women’s groups that now want to extort money from Mr. Berlusconi. Based on falsified numbers about sex trafficking (The Myth of Sex Trafficking)
Legitimate mainstream magazines, movies and newspapers from the 1970’s now are child porn, and tens of thousands of men are in jail getting special rape attention from gangsters.
The antifeminist had the glorious idea: men’s groups unite and countersue.
If Italian women get offended by a man (maybe, allegedly) having sex with a woman over the age of consent, imagine men’s offense at risking jail for looking at photos, for going to jail for having sex with women who lied about their age and presented fake id (Victim dupes man into raping her. How can you rape without knowing you are raping?). This does not offend the dignity of all men?
If there existed such a men’s rights lobby group in Italy, it could make a counter-claim against the feminists who passed the original anti-prostitution laws that criminalized the sexual choices and restricted the opportunities of all Italian men. Including the feminist advocacy lobby groups that lobbied for such laws (that no doubt include the group behind this absurd claim against Berlusconi). As I and others have documented, such lobbying has clearly been based upon deliberate lies, falsehoods, and exaggerations. The antifeminist
Women have fought to restrict and jail men and to take over the world’s courts and justice systems. This has been on-going for over a century (The Fraud of Feminism – Ernest Belfort Bax (complete) year (1913!) ). It is time for men to wake up, unite, and fight back.
In these modern times, a child needs legal counsel before playing doctor, before taking photos, or before just hugging a fellow kid. Sex laws seriously traumatize and scar little children. 10y olds become registered sex offenders, 6 year olds accused of sexual harassment, and 13 year olds risk 10 years in jail for having a 12 year old boyfriend. Innocence of childhood is being taken away by pedo-hysteric perverts that invent and enforce absurd laws that grow out of the sex-obsessed religious mind.
A few decades ago, sexually curious children would get a little slap on the wrist or an admonition. Nowadays they get police arrest or at least a school suspension.
Obviously children need to be taught. and warned about these dangers. Not so much the dangers of sexuality. Children need to understand the dangers of man-made crazy laws.
But, how do you teach a 5 year old, or even a 12 year old that adults made insane laws that will cruelly punish him for taking nude photos of herself, playing doctor or “harassing” a kindergarden mate through hugging? Sexuality for children is even more complex then for adults
By this logic, if a child looks into the bath room mirror and sees her naked body, she is looking at child pornography!?
Every 5 year-old is stepping in a legal mine field if s/he wants to play doctor.
Criminalizing Child’s Play
by Marshall Burns, Ph.D. […]
What used to be called “playing doctor” for young children or thought of as normal sexual experimentation for older teens is now enough to get a kid arrested, taken away in handcuffs, put in juvenile jail, subjected to draconian psychological “treatment,” and put on a sex offender registry, often for the rest of his or her life! This is not just for aggressive or violent behavior, but for innocent, consensual play among giggling kids.
This report presents statistics on juvenile sex offenders, as well as details and references on 66 cases of the formal admonishment of children as young as four for behavior interpreted as sexual and criminal prosecution of children and teenagers for consensual sexual activity. This is a small sample of tens of thousands more cases like them across the United States and in some other countries.
Now every 7 year old, as soon as she is able to take a photo with a cell phone, needs to be accompanied by a lawyer, in order to know these important facts of life. Of course, these regulations need to be part of every school curriculum, from kindergarden to high school.
12, 14, 16 year olds, when engaging in sex, or just sex foreplay, are subject to varying laws, depending on country and state they are in. One of the most absurd cases is here
What used to be called “playing doctor” for young children or thought of as normal sexual experimentation for older teens is now enough to get a kid arrested, taken away in handcuffs, put in juvenile jail (or sometimes even adult prison), subjected to draconian psychological “treatment,” and put on a sex offender registry, often for the rest of his or her life! This is not just for aggressive or violent behavior, but also for innocent, consensual play among giggling kids. See the SOLR report, Criminalizing Child’s Play, for data on the formal admonishment of children as young as four, and criminal prosecution of first graders, for innocent sexual behavior.
10 year old girl registered as sex offender for 25 years. Her crime:
1) Fully clothed pretend-sex & 2) nude flashing
Another example of the disruption due to registration was described in Moore’s USA Today article (2006). Leah DuBuc, age twenty-two, and a resident of Michigan, was adjudicated
at the age of ten for sexual experimentation. DuBuc and her two stepbrothers age eight and five were caught flashing each other and pretending to have sex with their clothes on. Two years later DuBuc plead guilty to first and second degree sexual conduct and was sentenced to eighteen months in a residential treatment program and was required to register as sex offender for twenty-five years. DuBuc’s youthful mistake has made it difficult for her to find or keep a reasonable job; she suffers from community harassment, and has been refused financial aid, thus limiting her education level. DuBuc petitioned to be added to the non-public registry instead of the public registry but was denied because she was more than five years older than one victim at the time of the offense. DuBuc claimed the court had poor mathematical skills because her stepbrother was five and she was ten at the time of the offense cjcj.org/files/attitudes_towards.pdf
66 Cases of Persecuted Juvenile Sexual Activity Brief descriptions of 66 cases of children and teenagers, from four to 19 years of age, who were either formally admonished by their schools or criminally prosecuted as a result of innocent or consensual sexual acts. Each case is documented by at least one reference to reputable news reports and/or court documents.
Today’s legally acceptable behavior can become a crime on kid’s birthday
Sex with 12 year old boy became a crime on her 17th birth day
1) A judge has sent a 17-year-old girl to a restorative justice conference before deciding if she should be punished for having sex with a 12-year-old boy.
In Napier District Court, Judge Tony Adeane observed the offence of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, instigated by the boy, happened on the girl’s 17th birthday, and had it been a day earlier she would not have been in the court. nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10684597
In Brazil sex with 16 year old girlfriend became crime on his 18h birthday
2) In Brazil, where adolescents are so protected, that they (almost) get away with murder, a man was arrested on his 18th birthday. He was doing the same thing with his 16 year old girlfriend that he had done, legally, for years, while he was 17y or less. But now, on his 18th birthday, he became criminally liable for seducing a minor.
Avid readers of child sex abuse books clamor for punitive laws
We were blissfully unaware of the fact that there are many many books dedicated to child sexual abuse. Emotional women devour such child abuse literature and get in a frenzy, demanding stricter laws. Just looking at the titles and descriptions made us sick (child abuse true stories). People who are enamored with such child abuse literature demand action
Perverted law enforcement persecutes normal average children
It took me a while to believe that Angry Harry was right: people who make and enforce these “child protection” laws have morbid obsessive phantasies about child sex.
Laws and law enforcement activities born out of these morbid phantasies do serious harm to little children and adolescents. These kids commit normal acts, sometimes somewhat “naughty” acts that then get blown out of proportion and criminalized instead of causing a simple admonition.
thousands of women ‘therapists’, who fantasised about child sex for years on end, who badgered children as young as three with sexual thoughts and imagery, and who harmed tremendously thousands of children and families, are barely criticised, let alone imprisoned.How do they get away with this?
Well, one technique of theirs is to continue to make a huge fuss over child sexual abuse and to claim that they are thoroughly appalled by it.
The truth, however, is likely to be very different.
My guess is that they love it.
Finally, I was shopping at ASDA (Wal-Mart) last week. They have a very small selection of books on sale. And I presume that they only sell those books that are in particularly high demand by the public. About 20% of the titles of the entire range were to do with ‘abuse’, and another 20% were to do with serial killers, murderers, torturers and, in general, ‘evil’ people. You know the type. angryharry.com/es_chris_langham.htm
We at Human-Stupidity were shocked to find this HUGE amount of child abuse literature on Amazon.co.uk
Why do people legally devour Child abuse books by Amazon and inadvertent possession of a picture is a heinous crime punishable by decades in jail? What about the children photographed on the cover of the child abuse books?
A man who dares to have sex with a woman needs legal counsel. He is guilty until proven innocent on many charges, which can be filed years after sex. A woman can claim she withdrew consent in the middle of the act, was unable to consent because she was drunk, drugged, had mental problems; she can look older, lie about her age and have fake id; can insert sperm from a condom into her vagina to inseminate herself, can get child support even if SHE raped him; injure herself and accuse him of battery and rape. He may go to jail for doing a DNA test on the cuckold child from his wive’s adulterous affair. Even sex dolls can look underage, and masturbation has its risks.
Nowadays, a man cannot simply engage in sex. He might get arrested, jailed for decades, registered as a sex offender, or have to pay spousal support and child support for a few dacades.
A mere 27 precautions can help to significantly diminish these dangers, but can not eliminate them
Precautions in order to safely (?) engage in sex with a woman
Legal precautions before engaging in sex in Brazil
The following text has been made popular in Brazilian blogs. It proposes a list of all the precautions a man has to go through before risking to engage in sex with a woman. Other countries are usually even more stringent and have even more dangers, as I will show
Then I will show that the author has been very optimistic and his precautions are way insufficient.
First take the girl to a hospital emergency room and request a blood test for alcohol and other drugs, to avoid charges of sexual contact through fraud with a person unable to consent or resist.(Art. 215 CPB) Then go with her to a notary public and require her to file a declaration that you are practicing consensual sex, to avoid charges of rape. (Art. 213 CPB) Also, demand that she register a declaration with the notary republic that she is engaging in casual sex, to avoid any claim for breach of a stable common law relationship with her partner. (Law 9.278, Art. 7) Next, go to a laboratory and require an examination of beta-HCG (human chorionic gonadotrophin) to make sure that you are not the guy chosen to support it her in a pre-existing pregnancy with a baby that is not yours. (Law 11.804 Art. 6)
At the motel or at home, use condoms and don’t even think of “rough sex” to avoid accusations of domestic violence and get thrown in jail for spousal abuse (Law Nº 11.340). Also, you should pamper her, praise her, never criticize her or complain about anything, (you must be the perfect mate), so as not to cause any “physical, sexual or psychological suffering and moral damage.” You of course are without any of the same rights in return. (Law 11.340 Art. 5) Upon leaving the motel, take her to the Forensic Medicine Institute and require a medical examination, be sure to request an expedited report for the possibility of bodily injury (Art. 129 CPB) and to check for the presence of sperm in the vagina, to TRY to avoid spending nine months of hell if she later becomes pregnant by another guy (Law 11.804 Art. 6). Finally, if the presence of sperm in the vagina of the girl is detected, immediately require a collection of samples for further investigation of paternity ((??Law1.060 Section 3 paragraph VI) and request a refund of any alimony obtained through deception or fraud. (Art. 171 CPB)
Having done all this, MAYBE you can practice “safe sex” if you are still interested.
This list is a good start, but unfortunately quite incomplete and left out a lot of risk factors, such as
underage statutory rape charges
fake ID
rape charges due to withdrawal of consent in the midst of the sex act
jurisdictional problems during travel
prostitution charges (which soon might elevate age of consent to 21 years)
I attempt to remedy these omissions and elaborate a more complete list of measures
27 precautions in order to safely engage in sex with a woman
A) Get Legal Counsel to understand the local law
you thought you could have sex without a lawyer? No way!
The girl looks quite clearly underage. Thus ID check, verification for fake ID, study of federal and state law regarding their age differences for application of Romeo & Juliet laws would be of major importance. Also informed consent about the risks, for example that the girl might withdraw consent at any time, a right which probably cannot be signed away in a contract. A lawyer should also advise his client that no photos must be taken, to avoid sexting child porn charges. So the video, though interesting, is very very incomplete.
A critique of Victim Rights Groups (VRG) in relation to sex offender info and legislation A hilarious rating of “victims rights” groups. Most of them got bad grades for perpetuating false myths and distorting reality. But one group earned his A rating. The Jacob Wetterling Foundation (www.jwf.org): […] “A+ (24 points): The JWF sets a gold standard for all VRGs to follow. The site is well put out, their information is free, easily ccessible, and factual. Few other VRGs take a sensible approach to the sex crime problem. Simply put, its as close to perfection as VRGs go “.
I am a FORMER Registrant currently residing in Alabama. On February 20, 2000 I was arrested in Alabama for making sexual contact (kissing) with an 11-year-old girl I had known while I was in college (around my 23rd birthday). I plead guilty to one count of 1st degree sexual abuse and received a six year sentence. I served 3 years at Bullock County Correctional Facility in Alabama, voluntarily took sex offender treatment sources, and was released on April 1, 2003. About Derek Logue
We cannot really know if this story is true, because by our language distorting laws, a child kisser gets called a “child rapist”. This is how our language has been redefined (see other articles about Child porn wich hunt and Teenage Sexuality witch hunt in this blog)
In 2003 I began posting at www.sexcriminals.com under the screen name “fallenone.” From my time as a regular poster there and at www.sohopeful.org, I found my calling as an advocate for the rights of sex offenders who have paid their debts to society and seek to rebuild their lives. About Derek Logue
Murderers, burglers, arsonists, extortionists, mob killers, child kidnappers, child mutilators, child killers, everyone gets a chance after they served their term. Interestingly, society is much more afraid of a child kisser then of a child murderer.
As a former sex offender, Derek Logue humbly questions the life sentence of the sex offender law, the fact that they are singled out forever. He does not even dare question the obvious:
Why would one have to spend 3 years in jail for kissing a 11 year old, if she participated willingly. Maybe her father should have watched the child more closely and slapped Mr. Logan. Looks more appropriate to me, That is what would have happened 50 years ago, before the underage witch hunt began. When age of consent was 12 years old, but that referred to sexual activity, not to kisses. (human-stupidity.com)
If these sex offender laws applied to predators that drag little children into the forest and mutilate and kill them, they probably would make sense. But even then, why are these people singled out? An arsonist who sets a school ablaze with a few child victims, he does not need to register after he gets out of jail! Nor will his neighbors and schools be notified of his presence.
Meet Derek Logue, legal rights activist, book author and former sex offender. Derek speaks out about the sex offender registry, Adam Walsh Act and Ohio’s sex offender residency restrictions.
A 17 year old boy kissed a 13 year old boy who had lied she was 15. Mother found out, German boy spends 8 months in Turkish prisons with 30 adult prisoners in a cell and now gets a 2 1/2 year suspended sentence. He could have gotten 8 years.
Why does the press not call this stupid insanity by name? Society was brainwashed so the teenage sex witch hunt continues unabated.
Marco Weiss had kissed a British girl Charlotte in Turkey.
A Turkish court has sentenced a German teenager to a suspended prison term of two-and-a-half years for sexual abuse of a 13-year-old girl.
As usual, this is where the manipulative lies start. Consensual sexual activity is called “sexual abuse”. Just because it involves a minor. The law distorting facts, worse then any Nazi propaganda. A kiss is a kiss, abuse is abuse. A consensual kiss is not abuse or rape. Wait, there is more! This article continues! Continue reading “Teenage boy jailed and sentenced for consensually kissing teenage girl (Marco Weiss-Charlotte-Turkey)” » Teenage boy jailed and sentenced for consensually kissing teenage … » continues here »
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Amazing how easy it is to offend the dignity of all Italian women. Now feminist laws that were enacted in the last 50 years gravely offend the dignity of men by criminalizing more and more behavior that formerly was normal and legitimate.
