15 year old Brooke Shields - no pedophilia, rather Ephebophilia, or Teleiophilia.

Hebephile, a newly proposed diagnostic classification in which people display a sexual preference for children at the cusp of puberty, between the ages of, roughly, 11 to 14 years of age. Pedophiles, in contrast, show a sexual preference for clearly prepubescent children. There are also ephebophiles (from ephebos, meaning “one arrived at puberty” in Greek), who are mostly attracted to 15- to 16-year-olds; teleiophiles (from teleios, meaning, “full grown” in Greek), who prefer those 17 years of age or older); and even the very rare gerontophile (from gerontos, meaning “old man” in Greek), someone whose sexual preference is for the elderly. So although child sex offenders are often lumped into the single classification of pedophilia, biologically speaking it’s a rather complicated affair. Some have even proposed an additional subcategory of pedophilia, “infantophilia,” to distinguish those individuals most intensely attracted to children below six years of age.
Based on this classification scheme of erotic age orientations, even the world’s best-known fictitious “pedophile,” Humbert Humbert from Nabokov’s masterpiece, Lolita, would more properly be considered a hebephile. (Likewise the protagonist from Thomas Mann’s Death in Venice, a work that I’ve always viewed as something of the “gay Lolita”).  
Why most "pedophiles" aren’t really pedophiles, technically speaking | Scientific American

Photo of 10 year old Brooke Shields might be just artistic photography. But those who feel sexually attracted are pedophiles.The meaning of the word "Pedophile" was manipulatively changed and distorted. Pedophile is a clearly defined scientific term meaning an adult that has attraction to pre-pubertal children.

We are discussing grammar, semantics, and politics of language manipulation here.
We are not defending or condoning pedophile activities.

Brooke Shields (2008). Is she getting victimized each time one watches her movies or adolescent nude/bikini photos? 1000's times per day?Correct Terminology

Hebephiles, Ephebophiles, Teleiophile were grouped into the "pedophile" group. So a "worse label’ can be attached to a sexual offender. An "adolescent lover" who had a 17 year old girlfriend is called "child lover" (or rather, in a second step of vilification, child rapist). Sure helps to secure longer jail terms and to get the population angry.  This is exactly identical to the manipulation that extended the word "child" from under 12 or under 14, to under 18, admittedly for the purpose of enforcing child protection laws for adolescents.

Additionally, child mutilators and murderers are usually called "pedophiles" in the press. Killing children has nothing to do with "child lovers" or sexual attraction for children.

Brooke Shields re-victimized constantly?

Thus someone gets arrested for possession of Brooke Shields 15 year photos , falsely called a pedophile, and the average Joe thinks he is a baby murderer. Note that the bikini photo of a 15 year-old  becomes child pornography in case one collects the photo for sexual arousal (Copine level 4).

According to child porn persecution theory, "children" (under 18) get re-victimized whenever someone looks at their depictions.. We prevented the re-victimization of Brooke Shields through the first 10 year old photo by putting black bars at all private parts.  Add to this the famous Brooke Shields movies (Blue Lagoon, …) , one can see that Brooke Shields constantly gets re-victimized thousands of times per day by people who watch these movies with an impure mind.

Ruinous persecution of mother and father for innocent  baby bath photos.  It is preposterous to assume that parents or a large number of men are "infantophiles".  We want to stress that attraction to infants is a serious sexual aberration and certainly must not be acted upon.

Infantophiles

Of course, Infant abusers can be labelled with a stronger label then "pedophile". Those attracted to 17 year olds are more ostracised by the incorrect application of the name "pedophile" or child lover, then by "teleiophile", late adolescent lover. To reach the maximum vilification, the word "infantophile" is now, correctly, created. It is undesirable that perverts that mess with infants can hide behind the word "pedophile", which could mean attraction to 9 year olds.

We are discussing grammar, semantics, and politics of language manipulation here. We are not defending or condoning pedophile activities.

There are also law abiding pedophiles who declaredly do not act upon their attraction. These, in spite of being accused merely of thought crimes, are in danger of being hurt by angy pedophile vigilantes.

Other Language manipulation ("rape", "consent")

Human-Stupidity has assailed the manipulative distortion of language is very common in the service of criminalizing adolescent sexuality.  The meaning of "rape" and "consent" have been manipulatively changed, just like "pedophile" and "child".

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  1. Roger Plumrose says:

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    The whole medicalization of mens’ attraction to adolescent girls is just a joke. Take a look at what sells the most in the sex industries: TEENAGE GIRLS. SCHOOLGIRLS. LOLITAS. JAILBAIT.

    Sexual preferences for adolescent girls are clearly the norm for men not sexual disorders or so called “paraphilias”

  2. Alan Vaughn says:

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    @Roger Plumrose…
    That’s always been the case for as long as I can remember… So I guess all men have always been “paedophiles” and always will be?
    Let’s face it any female over about 25 generally doesn’t stir things up inside us anywhere near as much as the sight of a a nubile, firm and young teen body does, especially when ‘gift wrapped’ in something fitting her age like a school uniform to make it even one level more ‘tantalizing’…
    So now being a normal red blooded male attracted to what’s depicted in publications that are sold more than any other publications that the ‘erotica industry’ has to offer, has effectively been degraded to the lowest form of life in present day industrialized society: a ‘Paepdophile’!
    This must surely mean too that most, if not all of the male persecuters and paedophile witch-hunters are hypocrites, thus could be one of the main reasons for the existence of the current paedo-hysteria?
    The ones making all the fuss actually feel guilty and are even afraid their little ‘kink’ (of being what was once ‘normal’) might eventually be discovered. So they make all this noise saying how much they hate paedos etc., in a sort of childish effort to hide the truth about themselves, because they now think there’s something wrong or ‘perverted’ about what truly wets their sexual appetites…

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  4. Jack says:

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    look, if thier (they’re? their? fuck I don’t know) sexual attraction would cause physical harm, and they act on it then they don’t get respect. Maybe some pity.

    Of course, post puberty is the time nature says ‘go’. Hence the old adage ‘If there’s grass on the field play ball.’

    It’s not that hard to understand people.

  5. simplejack says:

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    @jack: Children have a sexuality too. The myth that children dont have sexual feelings or are not sexual beings is very recent.

    “Of course, post puberty is the time nature says ‘go’.”

    Nature also says that homosexuality is wrong, because ist non-reproductive…

  6. JG says:

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    No need to specify that you’re against pedophilia in this article. It creates a feeling of insecurity, as is the article didn’t speak for itself. Exactly what the feminists plays on: guilt, word deformation.

    As for teenage attraction, Mr Plumrose, many men prefer 30-40 yrs old women to teenagers. But a woman likes to look young and for this reason buy more into teenage products.

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  9. rookey says:

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    I asked myself whether I’m a pedophile or not, but but then after searching the web, I found the following article to be pretty helpful to separate one from the other:
    pedophile obsessiona thoughts / worrying of being a pedophile:
    http://www.counseling-office.com/pt-blog/pedophile-symptoms/

    It basically contains a pretty detailed description of how to differentiate pedophile obsessional thoughts from real pedophilia.
    Maybe its’ of help for someone else as well.
    Anyhow, good to see I’m not alone who gets his brain messed up with teh terminology!

  10. MRDA says:

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    Last time I checked, nature had no voice to say anything.

  11. T says:

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  12. Alan Vaughn says:

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    @T
    Actually all THESE people commenting here are PAEDOPHILES and are apparently slightly more intelligent than some paedophile haters, because they can at least correctly spell simple English words.

  13. O says:

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    “attraction to infants is a serious sexual aberration”

    … And attraction to teens is not? Attraction to infants/toddlers is just another natural aspect of human sexuality.

  14. admin says:

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    I might be mistaken. Sexual attractions towards toddlers might be not so uncommon. I recently read that single mothers often have sexual feelings towards their toddler sons. So it is not sleazy men, but young mothers who get sexual attraction towards infants.

    But these are rumors I read. Anyone has any serious research about this? Or maybe such research gets repressed for not being politically correct.

  15. Dr Seuss says:

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    I don’t think that’s real infantophilia. I think a lot of women just get turned on by having babies suck their boobies. :)

  16. Irony says:

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    The irony here is that pedophiles are treated EXACTLY now as Gays were not too long ago. Death threats, “no mercy” for the person, would laugh if they died, etc, ALL the same. Hopefully, the next generation won’t be full of ignorant idiots like you guys, who treat us like inhuman freaks and call it parenting or protecting. So to that, fuck you. Fuck you all.

  17. Truth be told says:

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  18. admin says:

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    We don’t disagree. We are not promoting child sex or impunity.

    We are talking about the DEFINITION of pedophilia, infantophilia, … We bemoan the fact that our language gets so distorted that those attracted to 17 year olds (Hebephiles, which we consider quite normal), on purpose get confused with those attracted to 8 year olds (pedophiles). To confuse you further, it seems that those who play in sexual ways with infants are mostly women. Now how much damage is done when mom fondles or licks her baby in sexual ways? Let science do the research in unbiased ways. Without censoring science if the results are not exactly how we wish they were.

    Promoting scientific research about murder, riots, wars does not mean condoning such acts.

  19. Dam says:

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    There is a difference in preferring adolescents and still liking adults(which is not a paraphilia),and being attracted only to adolescents to the point of being incapable of sexual interaction with adults(which is a paraphilia).The latter condition is a disorder because someone with that inclination can not have sexual relations at all in the present day society.This usually leads to further mental health complications.Often an ephebophile will have intense attraction to adolescents,but feel disgust at even having sex with a 25 year old.Also they will never have romantic feelings or fall in love with an adult.

  20. theantifeminist says:

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    The problem there is that you might be arguing in a circle. The exclusive love of adolescents is a disorder (perverse) because the exclusive love of adolescents is a disorder (illegal).

    And what about those men (if there are any) who prefer adolescents, but decide that they will not have sex with over 18s through a moral principle (because they interpret the criminalization of sex with adolescents as a form of societal co-ercion, or rape – effectively trying to force men to have sex with over 18s)?

  21. theantifeminist says:

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    @simpleJack

    I agree that pre-pubescent perhaps have a sexuality, but Jack’s point relates to sexual attraction.

    Nature clearly intends us to find females attractive from the point of puberty, otherwise they would not be capable of giving birth, as well as sending out corresponding signals of sexual attractiveness and availability (growing breasts, pubic hair etc).

    It could be argued from an evolutionary perspective that it is normal also to find girls a little way below puberty (not much) sexually attractive, given the tremendous evolutionary advantage a man has in securing a girl who has not been impregnated before.

    Nature does not say that homosexuality is wrong. Nature does not say that anything is wrong or right. The argument is whether attraction to teenagers is a perversion in the sense of not being normal or natural.

    BTW, there is an evolutionary argument that homosexuality is reproductive in terms of the genes rather than the individual – obviously homosexual genes have survived….

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  23. Columnist says:

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    FGM-infibulation in Somalia is far worse than sex between adults and teenagers.

  24. Still A Virgin says:

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    Who says it’s wrong? The law? Society? Has it been given a fair scientific trial to see if it’s actually harmful, or as harmful as is commonly implied? Excuse me if I don’t believe you when you declare something wrong. I need to see some evidence first.

    Children do have sexual urges. I can remember having such feelings from the time I was a toddler, literally while potty training. And I never had any sexual contact with anybody.

    If children who have sex with adults become pedophiles, then we should be overrun with female pedophiles, since most men prefer the opposite sex.

    Finally, it already IS LEGAL in most places for people to have sex with animals. Zoophiles do this all the time and rarely do we hear anything about it because it just doesn’t get the same attention as pedophilia.

  25. thatguy says:

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    I as well will testify that children have sexual urges, because i did. When i was 5 i openly declared my love for a classmate and began spending a lot of time with her and we would frequently kiss, she would initiate the kissing most of the time. My first sexual encounter was when i was 7, i asked my baby sitter to give head and she did, she was 14. so not only was attracted to my own age category but older generations as well, having dreams of relationships with them and even making those relationships happen.

  26. AB says:

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    “Sexual preferences for adolescent girls are clearly the norm for men ”

    It’s cute when people try to pass off their personal preferences as fact. And by cute I mean fucking retarded and vile.

  27. AB says:

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    “Let’s face it any female over about 25 generally doesn’t stir things up inside us anywhere near as much as the sight of a a nubile, firm and young teen body does”

    Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.

  28. AB says:

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    theantifeminist :

    It could be argued from an evolutionary perspective that it is normal also to find girls a little way below puberty (not much) sexually attractive

    I wouldn’t say it’s natural to be attracted to pre-pubescent females.
    We’re hardwired to seek out people with certain physical qualities which signify their sexual maturity

  29. admin says:

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    Have you heard of unbiased, peer reviewed academic research?

    Take genealogy, history. Take the Bible and the Koran: All over history, men have married 15 year olds, 12 year olds, as the norm. Check anthropology: at what age do women in Hunter-Gatherer societies marry? And what age men do these women prefer? 12 year old boys or over 20 or over 30 year old powerful experienced men?

    Then look at Charlie Chaplin. Rock stars in the 1970′s. Hugh Hefner. Men who get admired by adolescent girls.

    Then check psychology: Show men the photos or video clips of 15 year old girls, tell them they are 19 (to overcome the ingrained fear of jail bait). See if they are interested or if they find these girls repulsive. You can even check with contraptions that measure penile growth, excitement.

    This is how one does science. Your knee jerk reaction can not change past history.

    Sadly, through feminist world dominance, feelings like yours did change the history of the last 50 years and of I dont know how many years ahead.

    But, as long as it does not become criminalized, a few people like me will insist on telling the truth.

  30. admin says:

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    It is easy to do research on attractiveness. You can read books and research by David Buss, for example, to check what age women men prefer as mates. Observe the mate selection of men that are powerful and attractive and can choose among many willing women.

    Nowadays most men don’t have the courage to pick much younger women, as this is shunned and criminalized. But Cougars who like much younger boys are empowered women.

  31. X says:

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    Let’s face it any female under about 16 generally doesn’t stir things up inside us anywhere near as much as the sight of a fully developed body does

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  33. BubbaHotep says:

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    If hebephilia were a natural state rooted in biology, then it would also hold
    true that 14 year old girls are, without provacation, attracted to much older
    men. Until 8th graders replace their J Bieber posters with those of George
    Clooney, I can’t see this becoming an acceptable premise

  34. admin says:

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    1. Feminist language manipulation has “redefined” the word pedophilia and made it confusing. Nowadays pedophilia means attraction to any person from age 0 to 17 year olds.
    2. If no 14 year old were ever sexually interested in an older person, age of consent laws against consensual sex were not needed. We take a libertarian stance and doubt the necessity of heavy handed draconian government interference in such personal private issues. Parents should take care of adolescent sexuality, not judges. >See our dozens of posts about teenage sexuality and the child sex trauma myth (disclaimer)
    3. Hebephilia means that a person is attracted to 14 year olds, not necessarily the opposite. Yet, certainly some 14 year olds are attracted to aging movie stars. How old was Charlie Chaplin’s wife? 14? 12?
      Don’t 35 year old singers attract some young girls?

      Read about the Rock stars in the 1960ies and 70ies. They were all surrounded by young groupies.

      And among hunter gatherers, older tribal leaders frequently get young girls as second or third wives

      Today’s brainwashing made such relationships very illegal, so they happen less frequently. Older men avoid young girls like the plague, knowing that they are “jail bait”.

    4. Justin Biber and 8th graders would need legal counsel, due to the *complexity of age of consent laws. In most jurisdictions, they could not even have a sexually charged chat on the internet.
  35. theantifeminist says:

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    @BubbaHotep

    Why do you assume attraction has to be mutual?

    Does it follow that fat people are only attracted to other fat people? That ugly people are only attracted to other ugly people?

    There are still patently obvious reasons why older men would be hardwired to prefer teenage girls, even if pulling those teenage girls would be harder than reproducing with their own age group.

    65 year old men still prefer looking at naked 21 year old women to naked 65 year old women, and this isn’t disproven by the fact that 21 year old women prefer 21 year old men to 65 year old men.

  36. BubbaHotep says:

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    All right, you win, fairplay

  37. gkufk says:

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    As for teenage attraction, Mr Plumrose, many men prefer 30-40 yrs old women to teenagers.

    Sssh. You need to understand that Mr. Plumrose is not just one man, he is EVERY man on the planet

  38. "Paedocrite" says:

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    If past history was all there was to the game, the richest people would be librarians.

  39. Nihilist says:

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    In a study of penile tumescence, men were found most aroused by pictures of young adult females

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