"Once Fallen" Derek Logue about sex offender registration

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I am a FORMER Registrant currently residing in Alabama. On February 20, 2000 I was arrested in Alabama for making sexual contact (kissing) with an 11-year-old girl I had known while I was in college (around my 23rd birthday). I plead guilty to one count of 1st degree sexual abuse and received a six year sentence. I served 3 years at Bullock County Correctional Facility in Alabama, voluntarily took sex offender treatment sources, and was released on April 1, 2003.  About Derek Logue

We cannot really know if this story is true, because by our language distorting laws, a child kisser gets called a “child rapist”. This is how our language has been redefined (see other articles   about Child porn wich hunt and Teenage Sexuality witch hunt in this blog)

In 2003 I began posting at www.sexcriminals.com under the screen name “fallenone.” From my time as a regular poster there and at www.sohopeful.org, I found my calling as an advocate for the rights of sex offenders who have paid their debts to society and seek to rebuild their lives.   About Derek Logue

Murderers, burglers, arsonists, extortionists, mob killers, child kidnappers, child mutilators, child killers, everyone gets a chance after they served their term. Interestingly, society is much more afraid of a child kisser then of a child murderer.

As a former sex offender, Derek Logue humbly questions the life sentence of the sex offender law, the fact that they are singled out forever.  He does not even dare question the obvious:

Why would one have to spend 3 years in jail for kissing a 11 year old, if she participated willingly. Maybe her father should have watched the child more closely and slapped Mr. Logan. Looks more appropriate to me, That is what would have happened 50 years ago, before the underage witch hunt began. When age of consent was 12 years old, but that referred to sexual activity, not to kisses. (human-stupidity.com)

If these sex offender laws applied to predators that drag little children into the forest and mutilate and kill them, they probably would make sense. But even then, why are these people singled out? An arsonist who sets a school ablaze with a few child victims, he does not need to register after he gets out of jail! Nor will his neighbors and schools be notified of his presence.

Meet Derek Logue, legal rights activist, book author and former sex offender. Derek speaks out about the sex offender registry, Adam Walsh Act and Ohio’s sex offender residency restrictions.

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25 hottest sex offenders any boy wishes to become a rape victim of

25 sex offenders that are the wet dream of any boy during puberty, or man in adulthood, or old age. Rare a boy that does not desire to be a victim of one of these heinous predators.

And yes, consensual sex with minors is called (statutory) rape. So these kids are actually being raped by these monstrous women.

Thank God, we have equal rights. So a few women go to jail too, for just being people and having normal consensual relationships. Happens to men all the time

Still, many people think that maybe boys are not victims, but of course girls are victims of predators. Jail to the child rapist below! And may they be forever in the sex offender list so other innocent boys will be protected.


1. Pamela Rogers

Rogers is a former elementary school physical education teacher and coach at Centertown Elementary School in McMinnville, Tennessee. She was also the Ms. Monday Nitro in WCW at Spring Break festivities.

Her Crime: At age 29, Rogers was charged for having a sexual relationship with a 13-year-old male student. She and the boy performed both vaginal and oral sex more than a dozen times, in the school, in her house, and in the teen’s home during the three-month relationship.

Verdict: Seven years in prison.


24. Stephanie Ragusa

Ragusa is a former teacher at Davidsen Middle School in Tampa, Florida.

Her Crime: At age 28, Ragusa was arrested three times and charged with having sex with two 15-year-old students.

Verdict: No verdict has been made yet.


4. Amber Jennings

Jennings is a former English teacher at Shepherd Hill Regional High School in Dudley, Massachusetts.

Her Crime: At age 32, Jennings started having sex with a 16-year-old student in 2003. They videotaped their romps and e-mailed naked photos and messages to each other.

Verdict: Two years probation for disseminating harmful materials to a minor. She was not required to register as a sex offender.

Mary Kay Leturneou-sex-offender at age 47!

15. Mary Kay Letourneau

Letourneau is most infamous female sex offender in the 90s. She is a former elementary school teacher in Shorewood Elementary School in Burien, Washington. She was the daughter of John Schmitz, who ran for President of the United States in 1972 on the American Independent Party ticket.

Her Crime: At age 34, Letourneau was charged with statutory rape involving her 13-year-old student, Vili Fualaau. She later gave birth to his daughter while she was in prison. After her release, they got married and had more children. In the photo above, she is 47 years old, depicted with her “victim” at 26 (?).

Verdict: Seven and a half years in prison.


6. Christine Marie Johanson

Johanson is a former teacher’s assistant at Hudson Park Elementary School in Rainer, Oregon.

Her Crime: At age 35, Johanson was charged for having sex with a 15-year-old male.

Verdict: One year in jail


14. Carrie McCandless

McCandless is a former English teacher at Brighton Charter High School and wife of the school’s principal in Brighton, Colorado.

Her Crime: At age 29, McCandless was charged with having sex with a 17-year-old male student during a school-sponsored camping trip to the Rockies.

Verdict: Five years of supervised probation.

Most pictures & text quoted from this very true article, consult it to find more hot offenders
Source: http://girls.gunaxin.com/teacher-appreciation-week-25-hottest-sex-offenders/7531/trackback
Thanks to http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2010/05/25-hottest-sex-offenders.html that linked to this list.

Unconscious dogmas & stupidity analyzed

All this is the result of feminist politics, in collaboration with religious fanatics, who wage a world-wide war against men having sex with younger women & girls. The girls on this list are “collateral damage”. It is much rarer that older women have relations with young boys, so this damage is small compared to the terror that is sowed among men who get years of jail for merely trying to get into minor’s pants or for possession of a DVD with doubtful sex movies

Very strict laws and insanely high penalties, for “crimes” that actually have absolutely no victims (except feminists who do not like men to have access to any competitors, teenage girls, prostitutes, foreign brides, …).

Acts that were normal behavior over thousands of years, and in the last 25 years became crimes. Systematic increase of age of consent. Draconian enforcements of laws that before were only on the books, or not even on the books. Any man in his right mind, 50 years ago, would send a woman to jail for having been seduced by a 13, 15, or 17 year old football player boy, taller and heavier then she is?

An entire generation brainwashed, that “pedophilia” (in the warped definition of modern feminist inspired laws) is a heinous crime.

Maybe some of this behavior is in bad taste. A misdemeanour, deserving a slap on the wrist. But not years in jail! Maybe there is a problem when teachers and students have sexual relations.

Suggestion for better laws

If there really was concern about minors being taken advantage of, or undue influence on school issues because of teacher-student relationships, what about these suggestions:

  • minors, before having sex, should have a 30 minute mandatory counselling session, with a 1 day cool off wait period
  • teacher-student relations must be disclosed to the school board or some authority.

This would take care of all concerns, and would be much cheaper and more humane thant today’s witch hunt prosecutions.

Youtube Spoof of “Catch a Predator”: Absurdity of Underage Sex Entrapment

The following parody becomes much more funny if you have seen any real TV edition of

“To Catch a Predator” witch hunt by NBC Dateline & “Perverted Justice”. It shows the reaction of a normal healthy male who has not been brainwashed by political correctness and the underage sex persecution witch hunt.

Border arrest & instant jail for owning DVD with young looking 19 year old porn star. Any honest citizen risks jail

Any law abiding citizen can end up in jail at any time

The child porn witch hunt endangers any normal law abiding citizen. One may be arrested and kept in jail at any time for no fault. This is why the term witch hunt is appropriate.
Simon-Timmerman, an American pizza delivery guy, bought a bootleg DVD in Venezuela. It has sex videos of 19 year-old teen Little Lupe.

  1. nobody got endangered,
  2. no danger of intimidating witnesses, of damaging victims.
  3. No prior criminal record.
  4. No damage would be done leaving the “perpetrator” out of jail while investigating and during trial.
  5. Of course, alleged child molestors, kiddie pornographers are at special risk to be anally raped in prison.
  6. proof of age was right on Little Lupe’s web site’s 2257 declaration. It is insane to be arrested for possession of child porn with a 2257 declaration right on the internet. It is a witch hunt!
  • Carlos Alfredo Simon-Timmermann was lucky that there was only ONE well known porn star. Were this a movie with 20 girls, or a home video with unknown girls, he would be doomed. As I said: "guilty until proven innocent"
  • He could have bought a different non-sexual movie (for example, "Avatar") and by accident it was mislabeled and contained porn. Too bad, 20 years in jail!! "in dubio contra reo" (if in doubt, decide against the accused)
  • The video could contain old, formerly legal Dutch videos with 16 year old girls doing hard core porn produced legally 20 years ago. Sold inadvertently in a garage sale or by a pirate copycat. Doom. Life ruined, 20 years in jail. Even if it was inadvertent and he thought he bought the Video "Avatar".  More here: Child porn & underage sex witch hunt analyzed
  • He could have bought old collections of Playboy, formerly legal dutch magazines, a certain 1970’ies issue of the reputable German News Magazine "Der Spiegel" with a cover story about Lolita. Or a british tabloid from the 70ies with a 15 or 16 year old page 3 nude girl. Jail for child pornography. (yes I know, it is "adolescent erotic photography", but for the purpose of obfuscation and propaganda adolescents are called children and erotics are called pornography) see “Child Porn” Witch Hunt: Insane Laws
  • His daughter might have left some photos of herself on the computer. Or his son surfed some web sites and encountered child porn. 20 years in jail. Or he might have nude bath photos of his toddlers
  • It is almost impossible to be safe. Like a middle age witch hunt. It can get anyone, any time. There is no legal safety for good law abiding citizens. It can get anyone, even a middle aged feminist woman who bought a mis-labeled DVD or carries a computer she bought used or loaned to her porn surfing son.
  • This month, a Brooklyn pizza-delivery guy narrowly avoided a wrongful conviction for child pornography. Wrongful convictions might not be that unusual, but this case certainly is: the man accused has a porn star to thank for setting the record straight.

    In August when returning from a trip to Venezuela, Carlos Alfredo Simon-Timmerman was stopped en route in Puerto Rico when custom officers found pornographic DVDs in his backpack. One DVD was called "Little Lupe the Innocent — Do Not Be Fooled By Her Baby Face." Customs investigators reviewed the DVDs and determined that actresses in the films were underage. They charged Simon-Timmerman with trafficking in child porn. Nobody knew the ages of the girls or women in the films, but authorities decided to err on the side of assuming Simon-Timmerman’s guilt.

    It would eventually take Little Lupe herself flying from Venezuela to Puerto Rico, testifying in court and displaying her passport to prove her age to the judge and lead prosecutors to drop the charges




    For further details, citations, and concise analyisis on why this is "human stupidity",

    blind unconscious thinking based on taboos,

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Bruce Rind Study: Scientific Publications Condemned and Repressed by US Congress and Senate

One of the most prestigious peer reviewed research journals of the American Psychological Association published a meta-research (an overview of lots of other research papers) with disturbing findings.  Result: the US Senate and US congress condemned the Research.  After all, the preconceived notions behind our criminalization of Teenage Sexuality must not be disturbed.

Disclaimer: The issue here is repression of research and denial of the truth. One still may defend the laws as they are, but should not repress free research that could challenge one’s personal political opinions.


Another clash between highly charged political rhetoric and scholarly discourse concerned Associate Professor of Psychology Scott Lilienfeld. It began with a 1998 paper in Psychological Bulletin, a journal of the American Psychological Association (APA). Temple University’s Bruce Rind and two colleagues had conducted a review of quantitative literature, finding a weak link between childhood sexual abuse and later psychopathology. Radio talk show host Laura Schlessinger blasted the article as an effort to normalize pedophilia. Both houses of Congress passed resolutions condemning it, and finally, the chief executive of the APA wrote that the findings “should have caused us to evaluate the article based on its potential for misinforming the public policy process. This is something we failed to do, but will do in the future.”
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"To Catch a Predator" witch hunt by NBC Dateline & "Perverted Justice"

Let me, Devil’s Advocate, clarify

The real issues here:

  • A minor issue: clearly consensual sex with fully conscious, intelligent, non-drugged adolescents gets heavily punished, totally blown out of proportion
  • while real dangerous violent totally non-consensual crimes like high school bullying, gang intimidation and violence only get minor attention.
  • additional issues were entrapment, vigilanteism, sensationalism, sloppy evidence gatering. The “perpetrators” get enticed by the “victims”, the fake young kids, who never resisted any advances, and came on fairly strongly: “bring condoms”, “yes, I let you f… me in the a… if you love me”
  • which comes back to the question if young kids of 17, 15, 13 years are really such helpless little creatures with absolutely no responsibility for their actions (in the same USA 12 year old criminals are often tried as adults, but they are unable to consent to sex)

I agree that probably there needs to be some restriction on sexual interaction of older with the young, or sex between young people. But non-consensual violent behavior of high school bullies, neighborhood gangs, criminal organizations is 1000 times more problematic and inescapable.

What about dedicating our scarce law enforcement resources to such uncontested undeniable problems? “To catch a highschool bully”, “to catch high school mobbing” or “to catch a gang assault”, or “to catch a rapist”.

To Catch a Predator was a reality television show that featured a series of hidden camera investigations by the television news-magazine Dateline NBC devoted to the subject of identifying and detaining those who contact people they believe to be below the age of consent over the Internet for sexual liaisons. Men are lured to meet with a decoy under the pretense of sexual contact. The investigations, many of which have been reported by Dateline correspondent Chris Hansen and producer Lynn Keller, are conducted as an undercover sting operation with the help of online watchdog group Perverted-Justice. Since the third installment, law enforcement and other officials have also been involved in the operation, leading to the arrests of most individuals caught in the sting. In an interview with NPR’s Neal Conan on Talk of the Nation, Chris Hansen emphasizes that the subjects of his program should be labeled as sexual predators: “We don’t label these guys as pedophiles. Pedophiles have a very specific definition, people who are interested in prepubescent sex. What we’re talking about here are potential predators.”[1]
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Catch_a_Predator (worth reading in entirety)

First a parody on “Catch a Predator” by NBC with the group “Perverted Justice”.

I think the parody tells better what this whole TV series is about. A guy that thinks straight, like a normal person 25 years ago, before the onset of the witch hunt for underage Teen Sex.

Wanting Sex with a willing consenting 17 year old, a heinous crime?

Now if you got brainwashed by the regular press, you might agree with “to catch a predator”. That TV series catches guys who want to have sex with a 12-13 year old girl who shows great willingness to engange in a sexual encounter, who does not resist to the guy’s advances at all. These “victims” who seem to have quite a mature behavior, are just one step short of actually hitting on the guy to have sex (which would still make her a “victim” according to today’s laws, punishable by 5-10 years in jail and mandatory life long registration as a sex offender). Interestingly, it is a thought crime, apparent “intent to have sex with a minor” is enough to ruin a life forever, even if the decoy on the internet chat is an 18 year old girl, or a 47 year old guy.

Why is there no registration for violent dangerous non-sexual offenders? Robbers, psychopaths, bullies, drunk troublemakers?

The press, and government have been brainwashing the public by trying to equate having sex with a willing, horny, and consenting 17 year old (or 15 year old in Europe where the age of consent usually is 16, up from 12 a few decades ago) with violent rape and killings of 7 year olds (which obviously always was a crime)

‘To Catch a Predator’: The New American Witch Hunt for Dangerous Pedophiles

Rolling Stone/July 30, 2007

[…] Twenty-eight men are caught in the bust, and the local prosecutor’s office brings charges against all of them. If they’re convicted, their sentences for attempted sexual assault will range from five to ten years in prison.

In direct response to the high-profile success of To Catch a Predator, laws against online predators have become increasingly hostile: Internet solicitation of a minor is now a crime in a majority of states, regardless of whether an actual minor is involved. By 2009, at least 600,000 of the country’s convicted sex offenders — including those who, like Donnelly, never met an actual minor — will be required by a new federal law, the Adam Walsh Act, to be listed on a national registry of sex offenders. There, on easy-to-navigate maps for the entire country, their photos and home addresses will appear next to categories such as aliases, sentence and “computer used.” Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch even thanked Perverted Justice for “directly impacting” the law’s passage.

Twenty-four states now forbid sex offenders from living near a host of public places — including schools, parks, day-care centers and bus stops — effectively shutting them out of many cities. Florida and Oklahoma require some sex offenders to submit to GPS monitoring for the rest of their lives. Ohio lawmakers even tried to pass a bill in 2005 to force sex offenders to sport pink license plates on their cars, but pressure from Mary Kay cosmetics, whose logo is pink, stymied the plan. This year, legislators are trying again with fluorescent-green plates.

This is much to the glee of Perverted Justice, which views child sex abuse as a vastly underrated evil, one deserving of harsher punishment. “I’m just a guy working within the Constitution to make the world a better place, using my freedom of speech to chat with individuals on the other end of the screen name,” says Frag. “How much more gratifying does it get than finding guys who are about to molest children and putting them in jail? Not many Americans have that.” http://www.rickross.com/reference/perverted_justice/perverted_justice36.html

Former district attorney committed suicide when Swat raids his house

Is it possible that Bill Conradt, an adult pretending to be a teenager, might have suspected, correctly, that “Luke” was also an adult pretending? Yes: Everybody knows that the Internet is a swamp of false identities. And is there any evidence that Conradt had ever acted on the longings that his chats illuminated? On the contrary, he chose not to when presented with the opportunity. Was it morally wrong for Bill Conradt to engage in online sex chats with an apparent child? Of course. But did his actions merit the response to them? Before answering this question, a man should take stock of the history of the desires he’s never acted on, and whether he should ever have to defend that history in court, or see it detailed on television.
Read more:http://www.esquire.com/features/predator0907-12 a long article with 12 parts 1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12

To Catch A Predator investigated by 20/20 pt. 1

While NBC might actually be moved by greed, Devil’s Advocate admits that most people involved did the setup with good intent to rid the world of “sexual predators”. But the zeal seems to have gone overboard, they helped create the predators they were trying to extinguish:

To Catch A Predator investigated by 20/20 pt. 2

Arrested for desiring to have sex with a 21 year old decoy pretending to be 13

After seeing the parody, be prepared for the real show. Here is a 21 year old “victim” actor, pretending to be a 13 year old boy. Still, just meeting him with an alleged intent to have sex with him is a heinous crime, punishable with 5-10 years in prison.

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Child porn & underage sex witch hunt analyzed

A great article about pedophilia witch hunt: http://open.salon.com/blog/patrick_j_kelly/2010/02/19/the_pedophile_witch

I recommend you read the original article, as it is full of very valid and strong arguments, including such points as:

  1. how can many people be criminally convicted for owning or watching multiple copies of one single 50 year old picture?
  2. how can 12 year old children be legally tried as adults, if they committed a crime, but they can only consent to sex when they are 18?
  3. how can 16 year olds be victims, if they enjoyed the act, if they actively sought it, repeated it?
  4. how can 16 year olds marry, have children, but legally not be able to consent to sex?
  5. how can a large part of the population be declared criminal, just for thought crimes like enjoying pictues of 17 year olds?
  6. why would people go to jail if there is no victim, if their crime (looking at a copy of a picture) did not harm anyone?
  7. how can people go to jail for something that 20 years ago was not even a crime?
  8. why is depiction, possession or looking at underage photos a crime, while depiction and consumption of murder photos is not a crime?
  9. how come that legal concepts like “innocent until proven guilty”, “guilty beyond reasonable doubt”, “penalty should be proportional to the crime”, “laws should not be arbitrary, discriminatory” are totally trampled and violated?

The challenge of legally punishing people for engaging in sex with minors has long been filled with problems. Alleged victims have always been reluctant to testify against someone who more often than not turned out to be a parent or close family member. Some were also reluctant to accept the premise they were victims at all in sexual encounters they not only enjoyed but frequently played some role in instigating. Laws defining 18 as the age at which one is mature enough to decide who they want to have sex with evokes cynicism from sexually active teens and preteens who view such restrictions as outmoded and totally out of touch with the reality they know. It is not that uncommon for many of these so-called children to be married with their own children at 16 which also draws into question the viability of the government’s one size fits all attitude towards sex. And when government prosecutors fight to have 12 year olds stand trial as adults doesn’t this call into question the rationality behind laws that say when it comes to sex you must be 18 before you are old enough to decide?

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Tiger Woods a domesticated kitten (Sex Addiction treatment)

Tiger Woods can afford a Harem
Tiger Woods can afford a Harem

Tiger Woods, super-rich, super-powerful man being a man? He could have thousands of women, and only had 14 over many years? Maybe there should be an option for marriage without “fidelity” vows! Wasn’t he faithfully taking care of wife and family? Just having a little fun on the side? This is a disease?

Multiple sources confirmed to RadarOnline.com that Tiger is being treated at the clinic which features a sexual addiction program created by Dr. Patrick Carnes, who has pioneered treatment for sexually compulsive behavior.

The Enquirer broke the world exclusive story of Tiger’s five-month affair with Rachel Uchitel. After that report appeared, more than 14 women were linked to Tiger as his secret life of cheating became public.

Source:  http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/01/world-exclusive-photos-first-pictures-tiger-woods-sex-rehab

Poor Tiger is paying 40++ k$  for a program to make him a domesticated kitten. Why can’t poor Tiger just have fun like any rapper or basketball player? Doesn’t he devote time to his family, take excellent care of his kids?

Didn’t his wife commit acts of domestic violence against Tiger without punishment? “A double standard that excuses female violence is not “common sense” but common sexism.” http://reason.com/archives/2009/12/04/tiger-woods-and-domestic-viole

And people resenting Tiger getting special treatment,  a single room and a cleaning maid? Come on, the guy is worth almost a Billion, why can’t he pay for a maid?

Tiger is believed to have booked in for a six week Gentle Path “behaviour modification” programme designed to purge him of sex addiction.

The courses, which include “shame reduction” sessions cost around s40,000 He is having individual counselling and is not expected to attend the usual group therapy sessions.

Source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/01/21/tiger-on-the-loose-115875-21983616/

I know some good “shame reduction” training. He should stand up for being an alpha man, as he is. No shame! Stand up for enjoying some extra fun with other women. What else is power, fame, and money good for? Did he suffer? Does he need treatment?

Maybe he should convert to Islam, at least this would allow him to have 4 wives. Maybe there should be an option for “open marriage” vows!

Mel Gibson, who endured one of the bigger Hollywood scandals of recent years, said the Tiger Woods affair has been blown way out of proportion — but that it wouldn’t do the golfer any good to whine about that now.

“I feel sorry for Tiger Woods,” the actor-filmmaker, 54, told Britain’s Mail on Sunday’s Live magazine. “Why are we talking about this when we’re sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan? … He’s being used as a diversion, and it just drives me crazy.”

Source:  http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/01/11/gibson.sorry.for.woods/index.html

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