Which brings me to a larger issue. What the fuck is up with statutory rape? It’s a joke law made up by joke legislators without a scintilla of real world experience with women. Am I supposed to request age identification from every full-bodied young woman who comes onto me? There are 13 year olds out there who look like grown women. At the borderline of 16 to 18 years old, many women could easily pass for mid to late 20s. It is well known by neuroscientists and psychologists studying these things that women mature faster than men. Women’s brains gel into adult-shaped contours sooner. A full breasted and wide-hipped 17 year old hottie who flirts with me knows exactly what she is doing and what she wants. She is no child to be coddled. And yet, I could be thrown in jail if I slept with her assuming she was an older girl, even if it was something we both consensually desired.
This is abject bullshit. The law makes it a necessity to demand age identification with every young woman a man might want to fuck who could conceivably pass for a teenager. This means background checks on women in their 20s. And what about women who lie? They exist, lots of them. Is a statutory rape charge for the man the just response — the *fair* response — to a lying woman who wanted the sex as much as he?
It’s time to end the charade of statutory rape. If the “underage” woman is physically developed, and she consents to the sex, there is no rape charge, period. For chrissakes, there are 14 year olds in parts of the world getting married off and pumping out children of their own.
– Roissy, http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/07/08/hank-moody-chump/
This is the first in a series of link lists by Ultra-Conservative-MRA. Human-Stupidity does not always fully agree with the often provocative content, but considers it food for thought, to shake up conventional thinking. See our 80 posts on Teenage Sexuality
Jimmy Savile: Stupid hysteria over normal sexuality
‘The Monstrous Regiment of Womanhood’ : Ernest Belfort Bax on the Age of Consent Double Standard (1908)
to catch a predator anti-male bias
history of the age of consent
Statutory Rape Laws Are a Subsidy on Female Sexual Market Value
age of consent from a 15 year old
15 year old here.
Honestly, you can not base readiness to have sex on age. You can’t. Evolutionarily, I’m ready to reproduce and I’m near the prime age to do so. Developmentally, there is no difference between my older brother (17) and me. (17 is legal in Texas).
Immaturity is a different matter. I know how to practice safe sex and I know what I want in life. My 21 year old brother doesn’t. He has gotten 2 girls pregnant and has a child.
Readiness to copulate is subjective, and honestly I thing the age of consent should be lower. Maybe a test would suffice.
Teenage girls more sexually active than boys, new research shows
sexual trade union and increasing age of consent, tom snark, schopenbecq
So…. I attended an orgy recently, and one of the girls lied about her age.
How laws concerning the age of consent actually act as an economic subsidy on female sexual market value starting @ 31:40, sexual trade union, sexual marketplace
Also deals with fertility, traditionally women reproducing at 15/16, legislation distorts the balance of power
thetrollking & others age of consent
Oddsock: I once read that the main reason these under age girls report her lover to the authorities is not because of any sense of guilt or stopping any harm etc. It is because her lover had stopped having sex with her, usually dumped her or found another girl.
peak fertility female fertility 18-24, hugo schwyzer
bobsutan on age of consent
pedophile apologist BS
Amazing Atheist on teenage girls
go tap that ass while you still can
Supreme Court upholds law allowing prosecution of boys, and not girls, for underage sex
Legislating Teen Sex: What’s (Terribly) Wrong With Our Age of Consent Laws
the reason MRAs are against the idea of admitting that young boys would be happy to fuck older teachers is that they realize this also means young girls would be happy to do the same, and since women can never be responsible for their own actions, they can’t stand that
age of consent law.. how it furthers misandry
why it’s stupid to throw 17 year old boys in jail for banging 13 year old girls
age of consent in the past: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/of9ku/a_local_man_who_looks_like_santa_claus_and_often/c3hbx0s?context=1
So what I’m saying is these weren’t problems that existed until feminists started causing problems. As the article mentions, they were able to start causing problems (women gaining more power in the public sphere) probably largely due to industrialization, allowing additional leisure time.
Fathers didn’t start asking for these stricter laws before because the problem didn’t exist before. And the problem existed for a few reasons, among which is that feminists encouraged it. It was only when erosion of the family unit began that fathers starting asking for more state interference.
You’re right that it wasn’t just the feminists fault, but they are certainly culpable. Industrialization is initially what allowed women the leisure time to pursue their hedonistic activities and feminists to pursue more power in the public discourse.
I’m referring to pages 12 & 13 in this document: http://www.sunypress.edu/pdf/60840.pdf
SEE TROLLKING’S COMMENTS TOO!
most women, including feminists, prefer legal prohibition of prostitution for this reason. In the current setup, women can retroactively determine the price of sex, and not only in marriage, divorce and child support — false rape accusations and sexual harassment accusations are, as often as not, a means to have the man “pay for it.” And what a price…
statutory rape laws and how they cause the decline of society sexual marketplace, also see comments regarding age of consent and leftists, sexual repression
feminism as sexual trade union, sexual marketplace, age of consent, anti-feminist
sexual trade union and increasing age of consent, tom snark, schopenbecq
why relationships between 20 and 14 year old not necessarily exploitative, pssvr:
even men’s rights redditors agree about demonization of male sexuality: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/hbgfh/another_way_of_saying_healthy_heterosexual_male/
At the Male Studies conference 2011, Dr. Marianne Legato, MD, spoke on adolescent boys. She is the founder and director of Columbia College of Medicine’s Partnership for Gender-Specific Medicine, editor of the first text on gender medicine, and founder of the journal, Gender Medicine. Her most recent book is Why Men Die First.
**”The problem with the adolescent male navigating that difficult transition from puberty to young adulthood is a disconnect in the timing of an abrupt increase in gonadal hormones that occurs in both sexes at the time of puberty, but which for boys produces intense emotional lability, and high intensity feelings, while the part of the brain that develops risk assessment and emotional control and stability, lags well behind. Girls do not have a similar retardation of that center of the brain and therefore are much less likely to incur the kinds of disasters that face adolescent boys until they are 20.”**
Remember that the next time an adolescent boy is charged with a crime for dating an adolescent girl who is likely at least as physically developed as he is, and more emotionally developed.
Links to part 1 & 2 of the conference where Dr. Legato spoke (I believe she speaks in part 1):
Part 1: http://www.vimeo.com/23289124
Part 2: http://www.vimeo.com/23294130
A local man who looks like Santa Claus, and often plays him, had a second court appearance Thursday on child pornography charges for flirting with 15 year old woman
(We also know that girls hit puberty earlier than boys. Girls mature faster, not only physically but emotionally. Therefore it is ridiculous to criminalize adolescent males having sex with adolescent females, when females are more in control of themselves. Recall that adolescence is defined as the period between puberty and roughly the age of 20.)
Why we should lock up adolescent girls for having sex with adolescent boys
From the recent Male Studies conference, Dr. Marianne Legato, MD, spoke on adolescent boys. She is the founder and director of Columbia College of Medicine’s Partnership for Gender-Specific Medicine, editor of the first text on gender medicine, and founder of the journal, Gender Medicine. Her most recent book is Why Men Die First.
>The problem with the adolescent male navigating that difficult transition from puberty to young adulthood is a disconnect in the timing of an abrupt increase in gonadal hormones that occurs in both sexes at the time of puberty, but which for boys produces intense emotional lability, and high intensity feelings, while the part of the brain that develops risk assessment and emotional control and stability, lags well behind. Girls do not have a similar retardation of that center of the brain and therefore are much less likely to incur the kinds of disasters that face adolescent boys until they are 20.
We also know that girls hit puberty earlier than boys. Girls mature faster, not only physically but emotionally. Therefore it is ridiculous to criminalize adolescent males having sex with adolescent females, when females are more in control of themselves. Recall that adolescence is defined as the period between puberty and roughly the age of 20.
In fact, an adolescent female who has sex with an adolescent male is in fact taking advantage of that male, much as is the case when a person takes advantage of a mentally challenged person sexually, and therefore if anyone should be sent to prison for two young heterosexual people having underage sex, it should be the female.
Therefore, I say lock up adolescent girls for having sex with adolescent boys. It would at least have *some* rational basis, unlike the current demonization of male sexuality that imprisons young boys who have been taken advantage of by more mature females.
Of course, our society prefers instead to lock up male victims. Typical.
“Feminists in the nineteenth century began to focus on raising it to at least 16, but ultimately wanting to raise it to 18. At that time the age was about 12 in most countries. Today it is usually set between 15 and 18.”
3 thoughts on “Age of Consent and the Demonization of Normal Male Sexuality”
“Human-Stupidity does not always fully agree with the often provocative content, but considers it food for thought, to shake up conventional thinking.”
What part of any of those linked articles do you not fully agree with?
Regarding the last comment, we shouldn’t be locking up anybody for consensual sex. The whole idea of an ‘imbalance of power’ is feminist mythology. There is no such thing.
Most of my grandmothers, great-grandmothers &c. were already raising families by the time they reached the modern so-called ‘Age of Consent.’ And their families turned out a lot less dysfunctional than the ones raised today by ‘heroic single moms’ who waited until near menopause to have children.