Blacks are much more likely than nonblacks to have an opinion about Zimmerman’s guilt. Overall, 72% of blacks say Zimmerman is definitely or probably guilty of a crime; 1% say he is not. Nonblacks also say Zimmerman is guilty, by 32% to 7%, but well over half of nonblacks say Zimmerman’s guilt is unclear from the available information.
Blacks are more certain about their opinions than are nonblacks. Blacks who say Zimmerman is guilty of a crime are significantly more likely to say he is definitely guilty than probably guilty, while nonblacks tilt more toward the "probably guilty" choice.
Additionally, 72% of blacks say racial bias was a major factor in the events that led up to the shooting death of Martin, with another 13% saying it was a minor factor. Nonblacks, on the other hand, are significantly less certain, with 31% saying racial bias was a major factor, 26% saying it was a minor factor, and 25% saying it was not a factor at all Gallup
Human-Stupidity Analysis: different attitudes by race (that doesn’t exist)
Amazing how white and black Americans have totally different perception. The truth can only be one. And the same evidence is known to all. Are racist whites biased and unjustly anti-Black?
Or maybe Blacks (and Liberals) have been taught that Blacks are always victims and never responsible for any negative fate. Not for lower educational and financial attainment of Blacs, their higher criminality. There always is a white repressor to blame. "I am misbehaving and having bad school results because there was slavery in 1860". If it is possible to distort the scientific race and iq discussion, how much easier is it to get a distorted view of a criminal case. As a matter of fact, Whites hide and distort black criminal tendencies. So, if anything, Whites already are biased in favor of Blacks. Add to this the proven lower IQ of Blacks, which makes it more difficult to understand complex issues and see through Al Sharpton’s manipulations.
Of course, media manipulation, like selective editing of the 911 call to make Zimmermann look racist, using 4 year old photos of Trayvon when he was 12 and a mug shot of Zimmermann when he weight 50(?) lbs. more serves to get people up in arms against Zimmermann. To top it off, spanish speaking and Peruvian Latino race Zimmermann is called a member of the evil white race.
Liberals and the biased manipulative press reports probably account for the 31% of non-blacks that believe Zimmermann is guilty. Gallup should also have reported if these 31% consist largely of people who don’t follow the news and thus are the less informed.
And yes, Human-Stupidity already mentioned valid issues on both sides: the cover-up of criminal thuggery of a son of a Sanford policeman, as well as media neglect of black on white assaults in that same city in the same time period.
We are just mentioning the tip of the iceberg, much more thorough analysis is needed. Why do the races (which allegedly are socially constructed and don’t exist) have such clearly different opinion in the Trayvon Martin – George Zimmermann case, as in the OJ Simpson and Rodney King case.
In the Rodney King case we can see the tendency to assign human rights protection to a heavily drugged felon who endangered people in a reckless car chase and violently fought of police. In the Trayvon Martin case Human-Stupidity keeps pointing out that it is taken for granted that a black man can punch anyone for slight provocation such as following at a distance.
U.S. public opinion about the Trayvon Martin case in Florida reflects the same type of racial divide found in 1995 surveys asking about the murder trial of O.J. Simpson in Los Angeles. In one Gallup poll conducted Oct. 5-7, 1995, for example, 78% of blacks said the jury that found Simpson not guilty of murder made the right decision, while only 42% of whites agreed.
The situation in the Trayvon Martin case is different from the Simpson situation, however, because the victim, rather than the alleged perpetrator, is black. Still, both situations, even though 17 years apart, apparently tap into the same deeply felt views of the average black American that the criminal justice system in America is biased against blacks. Underscoring this conclusion, a 2008 Gallup Minority Rights and Relations survey found that 67% of blacks said the American justice system was biased against blacks, a viewpoint only 32% of non-Hispanic whites agreed with. […]
The average black American has strong views on the case, perceiving that Zimmerman is guilty of a crime and that race has played a major factor in the case. Nonblacks, by contrast, are much less likely to think Zimmerman is guilty and are substantially less likely to believe that race was a factor. Gallup
See also
- Trayvon, Racism, and the Media Narrative
- 101 PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT PROOVE O.J. SIMPSON MURDERED NICOLE.
- Rodney King
Human-Stupidity Analysis
Unfortunately, the Gallup data lacks more detailed analysis. Whey don’t they differentiate non-blacks? Whey don’t they publish, separately, the opinion of those that actually follow the case? The opinion of those who don’t follow the case might be different and less relevant. This lack of proper analysis is equally annoying as the lack of the US Department of Justice to separate white Latino and white murder perpetrator prevalence.
The most interesting question at this point in the Trayvon Martin case may be who believes the Party line and why.
The tenets of our New Faith are naturally different from dialectical materialism, though our version shares its radical environmentalism (in the older sense): humans are largely if not entirely shaped by their environment, except for homosexuals, whose proclivities are innate. The first commandment of the faith is relativism: there are no significant differences among sexes, ethnicities, religions, and races. Disparities in standards of living are the result of Western oppression; the perception of these and other differences is "orientalism."
The second commandment is "tolerance." If you question commandment number one, you are guilty of a hate crime and need to be punished by "diversity training," the more benign version of the "re-education" dissidents were subjected to in the Soviet Empire.
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We disagree with the attitude of the following article, but value it for the interesting links it provides
Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman and the blurry line between conservative media and the far-right
On March 19, Beck’s website, The Blaze, speculated without much evidence that Martin could have been suspended from school for drug possession, “sexual harassment”, or “arson”. TheMiami Herald spent four paragraphs listing ‘suspicious’ facts about Martin’s bags (like “women’s jewellery” and a “burglary tool”) and on the same day, The Daily Caller, co-founded by Dick Cheney, published a compilation of tweets reportedly culled from Martin’s deleted Twitter account, by an ‘undisclosed source’. The Conservative Review immediately branded the teen“a criminal thug on his way to a life in prison”.
The campaign of character assassination didn’t stop with the right wing media. On March 25, a Twitter news site run by another Fox News contributor, Michelle Malkin, posted a picture of an entirely different Trayvon Martin which had appeared one day before on the neo-nazi websiteStormfront.
On March 29, a white supremacist hacker called ‘Klanklannon’ took up the work of Cheney’sCaller and leaked private messages he claimed belonged to Martin. The hacker invited people to log into Martin’s gmail account and see for themselves, having helpfully changed the password to ‘niggerniggernigger’.
Meanwhile, the conservative National Review had the nerve to fire contributing editor John Derbyshire on April 8 for looking beyond the controversy to the wider issues at stake. “Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally,” he wrote in an article for Taki’s Magazine, responding to Trayvon-inspired race debates by describing ‘the talk’ he gives to his kids. “Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks,” he went on (each point was backed up by a link to a crime or scandal which happened to involve an African-American). Avoid amusement parks if they are “swamped with blacks,” he warned; “Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.”
In the Fox-News-o-sphere’s focus on Trayvon and its implication that Zimmerman needed “protecting” from a dangerous thug is the germ of the idea that brought Nazis to Sanford. Anything in Martin’s life that was remotely ‘suspect’ (or, often, youthful) became evidence that he was a threat – better evidence, apparently, than prosecutors could ever provide.
More links on Trayvon Martin – George Zimmermann
The real George Zimmermann (Donations accepted)
by Human-Stupidity
- A US Black is 7 times as likely to kill a White, then a White to kill a Black
- Trayvon Martin & George Zimmermann: was it self defense?
- Trayvon Martin, racial profiling, political correctness
- Trayvon Martin, black rage and political correctness
by Wagist.com
by other sites
- The "Rorschach" Facts in the Killing of Trayvon Martin (Alan Dershowitz) HuffPost
- The Two Faces Of George Zimmerman,Neighbors Complained About His Aggression, So Did Ex-Girlfriend, ‘He Slapped Me Repeatedly’ Highlight Hollywood Exclusive Expose
- Amazing list of all publications on George Zimmermann case | Findlaw
- Eric Holder Praises Left-Wing Activist Al Sharpton, Says Facts, Law Will Guide Trayvon Martin Investigation
- Trayvon Martin case: George Zimmerman to seek bail; now, he waits
- Everyone from the president of the United States to former heavyweight championMike Tyson have weighed in on the case
- George Zimmerman: Case will be won or lost in jury selection, Jose Baez says
- WTF! Glenn Beck Founded Site Says Trayvon Martin Was A Criminal (DETAILS)
“In the Trayvon Martin case Human-Stupidity keeps pointing out that it is taken for granted that a black man can punch anyone for slight provocation such as following at a distance.”
Um, if Zimmerman was following @ a distance then it would be impossible for Martin to punch him. And provocation is a legal defense. This means if you’re right that Zimmerman provoked Martin, then legally Martin had the *right* to react with force (Stand Your Ground).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_%28legal%29
If Zimmermann got himself into punching distance while Trayvon backed up or stood his ground, then Zimmermann is in trouble. Now if Trayvon came back and hunted down Zimmermann to punch him then he is clearly in the wrong.
Now consider that Trayvon was a short distance from home and still did not make it home in several minutes of lengthy phone calls, while Zimmermann was at only 1 1/2 block from his car. Did you see the map and the link to the site with the time line?
I wish these things were clarified in public so we have no speculations. Now it is quite clear that Trayvon had ample time to go home and be safe there.
(Black?) mob beats white man into serious condition. “This is justice for Trayvon”
Mobile police need your help to catch a mob that beat Matthew Owens so badly that he’s in critical condition.
According to police, Owens fussed at some kids playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive about 8:30 Saturday night. They say the kids left and a group of adults returned, armed with everything but the kitchen sink.
As the attackers walked away, leaving Owen bleeding on the ground, Parker says one of them said “Now thats justice for Trayvon.” Trayvon Martin is the unarmed teenager police say was shot and killed February 26 by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in Samford, Florida.
http://youtu.be/Q94GC3EdGZc
If you haven’t seen it yet Admin here is another debate with Rushton this time against a Geneticist named David Suzuki.
If there are blacks on his jury, Zimmerman is screwed. Blacks usually vote for their own (right or wrong) both in politics and on a jury.
He’s screwed regardless because there is no way he can make a credible case for self-defense.
The evidence that he was the instigator of the conflict and aggressor is far too strong while there is no credible evidence Trayvon attacked him first.
How is he going to prove that Trayvon grabbed for his gun and threatened to kill him?
He can’t.
Meanwhile he is recorded on a 911 call expressing hostility towards Trayvon before ever approaching him and he has a history of violence that includes assaulting police officers and manhandling women.
It would actually take a biased and ignored jury to get him off.
Maybe his defense attorneys can take some pointers from Casey Anthony’s trial.
pay attention. the falsified evidence, the talk of the murderer being over charged, the affidavit does not contain all of the info that happened that night & white lawyers are saying it was done that way purposely and may be thrown out of court, the court apology was staged and so was him walking around in the handcuff. most of the court cases i’ve seen involving a murder, the defendant is not in handcuffs unless it is feared that the defendant may become violent. it was a sympathy plea. i believe he was only arrested to shut up the outcry. and why did he have a jacket over his head going into the police station the last night he was arrested? they were walking in from the garage where there were no tv cameras, no public. angela coreys demeanor strikes me as odd from the first day she spoke publicly about the case til the change in her attitude the day she announced the murderer was arrested. it all smells like an acquittal to me with all involved in this cover up, daddy, brother he had not spoke to in years, sanford police, bill lee, wolfinger, angela corey, city manager, all three lawyers. if there is a conviction, I’d be shocked. they need to save face because of the outrage for lack of action, they need to protect that law, plus, they dont care that a black man was killed.
wont matter if their is falsified evidence in the murderer’s favor. listen carefully, read between the lines. he apologized in court while in handcuff. not just reqular hand cuffs. its wrapped around his waist while he looks like some innocent child lost and confused. set up for an acquittal!
wont matter if their is falsified evidence in the murderer’s favor. listen carefully, read between the lines. he apologized in court while in handcuff. not just reqular hand cuffs. its wrapped around his waist while he looks like some innocent child lost and confused. set up for an acquittal!
Admin,
I’ve never heard anyone say that it is ok for a Black man
to hit someone who is following him at a distance.
But would you care to explain why you feel that George Zimmerman is more credible than Trayvon Martin when it comes to who is more likely to have initiated the physical altercation between them that led to the shooting of Trayvon by Zimmerman?
You can’t claim you’re just being objective in the absence of evidence for what really happened because you stated that Trayvon was more than likely an angry, aggressive Black man who assaulted someone who politely went up to him and asked him a legitimate question.
Why is the word of a man who has a history of violence including assaulting a police officer more credible than a teenager with no history of violence? Zimmerman had the gun. Zimmerman called the police. Zimmerman is the one who made assumptions about Trayvon without every having known him and an eye witness reports that Zimmerman was shouting at Trayvon angrily and aggressively before they fought in the grass.
So when it comes to an objective question of credibility why do you favor Zimmerman knowing what you know about him?
I can only logically conclude that you have a racist agenda with your biased reporting of this story. How does that make you any better than the alleged biased reporting of the Mainstream Media?
As for the perceptions of Blacks vs. non-Blacks (Whites?) when it comes to cases like this racial tensions exist because of the history of racism in America. And no race doesn’t have to exist for people to be racist anymore than God has to exist for people to be religious. It’s a social and mental construct.
The feelings about racial issues are part of the mental construction of race. Many Blacks feel they are unfairly targeted and some Whites feel that a Black person is more likely to be a criminal in a situation where they are treated as one.
How come you’re not writing about the feminazis anymore? Have the feminazis and their backward laws been destroyed? I didn’t think so…
Since you’ve made zero progress on the feminazi front your solutions is to open an impossible new front against race too?
No wonder the feminazis do whatever they want.
You miss my writing on feminist issues while dealing with race? Thanks for reminding me. I have some extremely provocative articles in the pipeline and am worried to finish and publish them, due to totally violating strong taboos. One set is about child sexuality, another one about very sexist opinions of female inferiority in character and capacity in general.