Change.org silences dissent
Hi Stupidity, it seems that you have been on a bit of a crusade the past day or so on lots of posts from the last month related to rape.
Call it an anti-crusade. Feminists have been on a very successful crusade to re-define language and change legal due process. So a vengeful women’s lone unproven accusation can instantly get the real victim, the falsely accused, into jail. Unlike all other crimes, where proof or multiple witnesses are needed.
Specifically, you have posted fairly demeaning dismissals of victims and the definition of rape.
Demeaning dismissals of linguistic definitions. That is how far we have gotten. Even definitions of terms can not be questioned. The essence of taboos to perpetuate witch hunts and make sure the masses are deceived by misleading perverted re-definition of terms like “rape”
Your comments are not particularly welcome here. Rape is a serious offense and it is incredibly traumatizing for it’s victims. I have removed all of your comments, links and have blocked your account before you post any more comments which would cause pain to real victims of real crimes.
And real victims of real rape get confused with “victims” that consented to fondling!? That is demeaning. And the “perpetrator” of consensual acts then gets gang-raped in prison, because of a pervasive attitude that (falsely convicted) rapists deserve getting raped. That is pain to real victims of real prison rape.
‘Women’s rights at change.org perpetuate manipulative language distortion to foster feminist political goals
It is essential for a witch hunt that dissent gets silenced, made taboo. Change.org’s feminist watchdogs invoke emotional terms (“cause real pain to real victims of real crimes”) in order to avoid discussing the issues and silence dissent easily. This is the central issue of Human-Stupidity.com: how Taboos, Dogmas, Religion make even the Intelligent blind, irrational, “stupid”. And self deception makes the censor believe s/he is a liberal person.
Thus, of course, the real pain caused to real victims of witch hunts is totally ignored. Guys who spend years in jail for consensual sex with an adolescent, or for a unproven false rape accusation. And who get special attention from prison rapists who like to prey on alleged rapists in order to exert cruel and usual punishment.
But my main issue here is not even sex laws. It is manipulative Abuse of Language to deceive the masses. The concerted world wide conspiracy to use the word “rape” for “seducing an adolescent” or for “indecently fondling a minor”. And the perverted inversion of due legal process. Alleged sex offenders are “guilty until proven innocent” and any accusation by a lone alleged victim is taken as proof of a crime.
Change.org dispute: full text follows here
Human Stupidity,
Your comment on the blog entry entitled ‘Teenager Forced to Apologize to Her Church for Being Raped’ has been removed from the Women’s Rights community on Change.org by an administrator.
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REASON: Hi Stupidity, it seems that you have been on a bit of a crusade the past day or so on lots of posts from the last month related to rape. Specifically, you have posted fairly demeaning dismissals of victims and the definition of rape. Your comments are not particularly welcome here. Rape is a serious offense and it is incredibly traumatizing for it’s victims. I have removed all of your comments, links and have blocked your account before you post any more comments which would cause pain to real victims of real crimes. Justin – Community Manager.
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We have removed content submitted by you 1 time. Your account has been locked. If you would like to dispute this, contact us at help at change.org.
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RAPE: INTENTIONAL MANIPULATION OF LANGUAGE
What do most people understand by the word “rape”? What was the meaning of “rape” for centuries? Non-consensual violent intercourse.
What does the average reader of this article think? They guy attacked the girl in a dark alley and had sex with her under the threat of violence. Strange, though, that he raped her repeatedly.
Now it is amazing that feminists and moralists managed to put such manipulative language even into penal codes. It is easier to promote your agenda. “Teenager forced to appologize for being seduced” does not sound so shocking. The word manipulation must be planned and purposeful.
http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality
http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt
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So no matter if you think sex with underage should be punished, I hope you agree that the truth should be said and that manipulative language should be abolished.
By the way, he is a “child rapist”. Because according to new definitions of child pornography, a child now is anyone under 18. The United Nations, the US, and Europe have adopted that definition.
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So, unfortunately we don’t know if he is a rapist in the classic sense, or a statutory rapist who just seduced a girl. A big difference to me. And a big difference for his chance of being raped once he is in prison.
Then we can disagree on the last point: if a 15 year old can decide who to have sex with. Interestingly, she can decide to have sex with a 16 year old. How come she cannot have sex with a 35 year old? Age discrimination by law?
Are you worried about manipulation of the tender 15 year old?I have a solution:
what about legalizing sex with underage adolescents, if they first undergo an hour of mandatory counselling and a 2 day cool off period? That should take care of this issue. This would guarantee safety for the 15 year old against being conned or manipulated. More safety that is offered to 21 year old tipsy Friday night party girls who may feel sorry for what they did yesterday
Check this for a change: beautiful young women convicted of “raping” poor adolescent boys.
25 hottest sex offenders any boy wishes to become a rape victim of
http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/25-hottest-sex-offenders-boys-want2become-victims
Human Stupidity’s Reply to change.org
Of course I want to dispute this. Deletion and block of my name for having a well argued opinion that negates feminist dogma.
And instead of just deleting an unpopular post INSIDE their feminist area, they resort to expulsion!
Similar opinions as mine were voiced here
http://criminaljustice.change.org/blog/view/reforming_sex_offense_laws and here
http://womensrights.change.org/blog/view/johnny_depp_defends_rapist
The points I made were
a) unproven rape accusations are always taken at face value and accepted as totally true, so the accused’s life is finished. No matter if the accusation is false
b) non violent consensual teenage sex should not be called rape
“I have dismissals of definition of rape”: yes, I resent to use the word rape for consensual sex. I think confusing consensual sex with an adolescent with violent rape, this is dismissing to victims of REAL violent non-consensual rape.
I have “dismissal of victims of rape” : I think real rape is very bad. This is why I resent using the word “rape” for fondling, or for consensual sex. For example, statutory rape of adolescent boys by gorgeous 20 something women, I really don’t have much pity on the poor boys.
I also resent that the unproven accusation of one single, potentially vindictive female can ruin a man’s life. While the unproven accusation of murder or robbery will lead to no conviction.
Of course, I don’t really know. If it is necessary to be politically correct, to adopt the feminist creed, then maybe I should be kicked out.
Guess I should not have given such opinions in a feminist forum. They don’t react kindly to diverging opinion.
I thought this was an open forum, open for diverging Iand provocative deas. But, maybe, it is not!?
Change.org’s grievance procedure: Justin denies the appeal of Justin’s censorship
Hi Human Stupidity,
You are perhaps right that expressing these opinions inside a woman’s rights site would raise some ire. And you are also correct that we are open to dissenting views – after all, we are not Same.org. But, dissenting does not include dismissing or offensive. Your comments were, and are, very dismissive of the harm done to women by rape, and in this case, oppressive rape.
With such strongly held views, there are probably more appropriate places for you to spend your efforts.
All the best,
Justin
Change.org, Community Manager.
Justin,
It is amazing that an appeal of a decision taken by Justin gets reviewed and denied by Justin. Is this how change.org is run? Are you the only admin at change.org? Or are you intentionally withholding this from other administrators at change.org?
I was not aware that change.org was a women’s right site. Women’s rights have a history of silencing dissent.I thought change.org was a bit more balanced and allowed critical discussion of issues. Don’t forget to kick out the people I cited who made similar critical comments.
I petition that your decision should be reviewed by a Community Manager of Change.org’s criminal justice department. After all, your action prevents me from supporting actions like these
http://criminaljustice.change.org/blog/view/whats_so_funny_about_prison_rape or http://criminaljustice.change.org/blog/view/prison_rape_a_hidden_crisis or http://criminaljustice.change.org/blog/view/an_end_to_prison_rape
Prison rape involves years of sex slavery and repeated gang rape of prisoners who are thought to “deserve” it. About as gruesome as life in Fritzl’s dungeon. Feminists are even more silent about prison rape then they are silent about muslim women’s repression and the burka.
Hi. Its great! Let’s give the jezebells the same treatment. Why can’t we start burn them again like in the old days. Everytime they lie about rape, give her then a gang rape, then start burning them, if all men react this way, we will stop them . Fight fire with fire, and lies with lies. Treat them like dog shit.
Hi John,
Thank you for promoting my Men’s Rights petition!
You can find me working as Program Director of Stop Abusive and Violent Environments (SAVE). http://www.saveservices.org They have a petition on change.org too: http://www.change.org/petitions/hope-for-victims-support-the-partner-violence-reduction-act The PVRA will help end gender discrimination in the DV industry, as well as make many more improvements in our government’s response to abuse.
To answer your question, I have a blog: http://www.teristoddard.org, but I don’t post there often. I’ve written a few articles on family rights which you can find there.
teri c. stoddard
This nit wit Dave Furtell, got his ass handed to him by Paul Elam in a debate on Domestic Violence in October last year. It was an epic fail for this girly boobs dude.
He pitched a hissy fit when it became clear he couldn’t win, and demanded that Paul remove all of it from his blog, and threatened a lawsuit. Paul’s response? Basically, “Fuck off, douche bag.”
Furtell’s been grasping at relevance since then. So far as I can see, his efforts have been another epic fail.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/fvmtk/tell_changeorg_to_add_a_mens_issues_section/
You know, had you actually bothered to read the news stories linked to in the piece, you would see that the alleged rape in question was forcible: “”He said he wanted to talk to me about something so I let him in the house,” she wrote. “He locked the door behind him and pushed me over to the couch. I had a dress on and he pulled it off. I pushed my hands against his shoulders and said ‘No,’ but he didn’t stop.”
I don’t think you should have been banned, but your post was obnoxious and ignorant.
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@manboobz Thanks for the reply. I posted on various threads. One of them was where a girl was raped about 23 times over a long period. Or actually, I think it was an underage boy. Strange, is it not? Must have been confined in Fritzl’s dungeon. Locked up for months in a little cubicle with no escape. No, it was consensual. That is why s/he kept coming back for more.
Maybe in your case it was forcible. That is, forcible by the unproven claim of the “victim”. That already is a serious problem, because she might lie, and in inversion of all legal constitutional rights of due process, the guy is guilty unless proven innocent.
If you post the link then it is easier to find. I believe this was the case where the girl had sex many times. Strange again how she keeps resisting but keeps coming back to be raped over and over, for weeks. Begs an explanation. Probably she did it consensually, but had to come up with a story to defend herself, to prove that she is not a slut. It really begs an explanation.
Now let us suppose, she told the truth, and better, there is some proof. Then still, the average reader has to really profoundly analyse if this was a “real rape in the classic nonconsensual way”, or not. S/he cannot judge from the headlines.
Because the word “rape” has been banalized, by feminists, by feminist inspired laws, to mean consensual underage sex, or non-consensual indecent touching of a dressed underage person, or maybe even consensual fondling of an underage person. So my main point is the shocking abuse of language, the total unnecessary re-definition of terms that had a clear definition since the ancient Greek or Roman emperors.
And all this is on purpose, because the average reader, and the average jail rapist, just hears xxx raped yyy, and truly believes he used violence. And this is not possible to infer, due to the new definition of the “new rape” as opposed to “real rape in classic sense”.
By the way, I wrote a letter to the editors of reddit/mensrights asking to unban you, for writing substantial comments that have substance, even if I don’t agree with all of it. Seems it did not help.
There’s only one enemy worse than a lying coniving, glory-seeking feminist: a fat yet gutless oxygen thieving mangina, whose hidden agenda is to impress in order to win the affections of (thus maybe have sex with) any runner-up enemy.
This parasite is an insult to the male gender across all species.