Abused Language: When a “rape” is not a rape
“Fondling a child”, or “consensual sex with an adolescent” nowadays can be called “rape”, in press reports, even in legal code (“statutory rape”).
This purposeful confusion created by the dilusion of the word “rape” helps to whip up punishment frenzy for crimes of “adolescent seduction” or “child fondling” at the expense of banalizing real forceful violent penetrating non-consensual rape.
So the word “rape” is abusively re-defined to serve an agenda: to make smaller transgressions look like heinous crimes.
The entire World Press, the United Nations, everyone swallowed the bait and became manipulated! Amazing!
Similarly, “adolescent nudity” no can be called “child porn”. Defining 17 year olds as children has the collateral effect that now there is no word for real children of 12 and under, as there is no word left for real rape. This confusion must have a manipulative motive, as there is no logical need to change the meaning of words that had a clear definition for centuries.
Real meaning of the word “rape”
What do most people understand by the word “rape”? What was the meaning of “rape” for centuries? Non-consensual intercourse with penetration, usually involving violence or threats.
In criminal law, rape is an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with another person without that person’s consent. Outside of law, the term is often used interchangeably with sexual assault,[1][2][3] a closely related (but in most jurisdictions technically distinct) form of assault typically including rape and other forms of non-consensual sexual activity.[4][5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape
A criminal offense defined in most states as forcible sexual relations with a person against that person’s will.
Rape is the commission of unlawful sexual intercourse or unlawful sexual intrusion. Rape laws in the United States have been revised over the years, and they vary from state to state.
Historically, rape was defined as unlawful sexual intercourse with a woman against her will. The essential elements of the crime were sexual penetration, force, and lack of consent. Women who were raped were expected to have physically resisted to the utmost of their powers or their assailant would not be convicted of rape.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/rape
Barman freed despite admitting raping 12 year old girl
A barman who admitted raping a 12 year old girl he met through a social networking site has walked free from court after convincing a judge he was tricked into believing she was 19. Barman freed despite admitting raping 12 year old girl (telegraph.co.uk)
Man who had sex with girl, 12, admits rape but is freed after woman judge says he was ‘duped’ into thinking she was 19
Shocking, is it not? He raped a girl and was set free because he was mistaken about her age! It is ok to rape a girl if she is 19 years old?
Well, he did not REALLY rape her. If she is 19 years old then consensual sex, initiated by the girl who brought the condoms, is not called rape. Dear Reader, haven’t you understood that any sex with a 12 year old is rape? Our language has changed in the last 25 years! But, of course, this is on purpose. Once you understand that rape is not rape, the intended shock effect gets lost.
So the 12 year old was eager to have sex with him, actively initiated sex and purposefully deceived the barman into thinking that she was 19. So, miraculously, he was freed. Doesn’t sound so shocking any more.
See Why I hate statutory Rape Laws | A Public Defender
After breaking marriage vow, sex becomes rape
Having a sexual relationship with a woman with a false promise of marriage can also be termed as rape. The case was being heard in a Delhi Court and it involved a man having sexual intercourse with his neighbour. The man was found guilty of rape and sentenced to seven years of rigorous imprisonment.
In the present case, Chhotey Lal, the convict and father of six children, had eloped with his neighbour in New Delhi in September 2004, and took her to far away places like Jaipur and Chandigarh. According to the girl, the duo established sexual relations after Lal assured her that he would marry her ‘very soon’. Meanwhile, the girl’s father lodged a ‘missing’ report with the police. The police detained Lal and the girl in March 2005 at Sarai Kale Khan Bus Terminal when they were returning to Delhi. Chhotey Lal was prosecuted for abducting the girl and having sexual relationships with her on false pretext.
“The so-called consent under a false promise to marriage is no consent,” additional sessions judge Mahavir Singhal said.
Highlighting the difference between ‘will’ and ‘consent’, the court said that a nod for sexual relations obtained by a man on the false pretext would not amount to a ‘legal or valid’ consent to save him from punishment for rape.
The Court observed that, even if the woman is assumed to be a willing partner in having a physical relationship, that the accused had no intention to marry her would make it a case where consent was given under misconception of facts, nullifying the efficacy of the nod.
Rape by promising marriage in India
Adolescent raped repeatedly?
Due to the language confusion, we really can not know if she was raped, or more likely, seduced. But most women don’t get raped repeatedly on various days.
In 1997, 15-year-old Tina Anderson became pregnant after being raped repeatedly by an older man she knew from church. Shockingly, when her pastor found out, he forced her to apologize in front of the entire congregation in Concord, New Hampshire, and then promptly helped whisk her away to live in Colorado.
According to Tina, the first time she was raped by Ernest Willis, it was in the backseat of car after he’d given her a driving lesson. She didn’t tell anyone because she was terrified that she’d be blamed. After being raped by Willis again, Tina became pregnant.
http://womensrights.change.org/blog/view/ teenager_forced_to_apologize_to_her_church_for_being_raped
Did she get “raped” or seduced? we don’t know
What does the average reader of this article think? They guy attacked the girl in a dark alley and had sex with her under the threat of violence. Strange, though, that he raped her repeatedly on different days.
Now it is amazing that feminists and moralists managed to put such manipulative language even into penal codes. It is easier to promote your agenda with misleading language. “Teenager forced to appologize for being seduced” does not sound so shocking. The word manipulation must be planned and purposeful.
http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality
http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt
Language confusion obfuscates facts
So no matter if you think sex with underage should be punished, I hope you agree that the truth should be said and that manipulative language should be abolished.
By the way, Ernest Willis is a child rapist. Because according to new definitions of child pornography, a child now is anyone under 18. The United Nations, the US, and Europe have adopted that definition.
Whoppi Goldberg differentiates “rape-rape” and non-violent so called “rape”
Hollywood has rallied behind Roman Polanski after his arrest in Switzerland over the weekend, with the actor Whoopi Goldberg suggesting that whatever he was guilty of it wasn’t “rape-rape”.
As a guest on The View chatshow on US television, she said: “I know it wasn’t rape-rape. It was something else but I don’t believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and when they let him out he was like, ‘You know what, this guy’s going to give me a hundred years in jail. I’m not staying.’ So that’s why he left.”
Polanski was not guilty of ‘rape-rape’, says Whoopi Goldberg
Age discimination: why is a 15 year old capable to consent to sex with a 16 year old but not with a 35 year old?
Then we can disagree on the last point: if a 15 year old can decide who to have sex with. Interestingly, she can decide to have sex with a 16 year old. How come she cannot have sex with a 35 year old? Age discrimination by law?
Mandatory psychological counselling before underage sex?
Are you worried about manipulation of the tender 15 year old? what about legalizing sex with underage girls, if they first undergo an hour of mandatory counselling and a 2 day cool off period? That should take care of this issue. This would guarantee safety for the 15 year old against being conned or manipulated. And it would be a good idea even for sex between consenting teenagers. So there would be no age discrimination!
Click on “more” for the rest of the story ……..
There seems to be another, hidden agenda. Not the concern for the well being of the teenager, but reducing the chances of oder men to get young girls. See http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt/pedophile-witch-hunt-solutions and http://theantifeminist.com/.
18 year old boy allegedly fondles a 14 year old against her will: a rapist?
Jose Reyes, the former 18-year-old Roosevelt High School student charged with raping a 14-year-old developmentally delayed freshman in May pleaded not guilty Monday to third-degree rape.
Reyes, who is being held on $100,000 bail, briefly appeared in King County Superior Court during his arraignment. He faces a sentence of 14 months if convicted.
According to Seattle police:On May 18, Reyes convinced the girl to skip class and go into a girl’s restroom, where she was fondled, police say. The girl told Reyes to stop, which he only did when somebody else came into the restroom. On May 20, the girl told a school counselor what happened, police said. Reyes was then arrested.
Reyes, who lived with his family in Greenwood for years but recently moved to Kent, began acting out sexually as early as age 13, according to court papers.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/theblotter/2012054274_teen_sex_offender_charged_with.html?prmid=obinsite
Rape? He allegedly indecently fondled a girl. Even when she, allegedly, said no. No rape in the “classic” sense of the word. No violence, much less any penetration. Why this unnecessary distortion of language?
If it were any other crime, if he were accused of bullying, beating, taking away her money under threats, he would not be arrested without further proof. He would not face huge penalties.
Seattle School District spokeswoman Teresa Wippel said Reyes was expelled from Roosevelt High School after his arrest.
Any proof for his crime? Just one accusation? It looks like he is guilty, from his past record. But if he were a murderer, an arsonist, a thief, a habitual violent bully, proof would be required to expel him. Not just one lone accusation.
Rape of a 4 year old: no mention of bodily harm?
A Kent man accused of raping a 4-year-old girl and broadcasting it live over the Internet has been sentenced a minimum 26 years in prison.
Seattlepi.com reports 36-year-old Brian Keith Beston apologized for his “poor judgment” when sentenced Friday by King County Superior Court Judge Regina Cahan.
After he serves 26 years, Beston will be confined until state authorities decide whether he should be released.
Beston pleaded guilty in April to first-degree child rape, first-degree child molestation, sexual exploitation of a minor and dealing in child pornography.
Kent man gets 26 years for broadcasting rape of child on Internet
Penetration of a 4 year old? And no conviction for bodily harm? I am not saying that he should not be punished. I am saying that the language should provide clarity, not distort facts.
- a rape is a rape. Yes, rape. Penetration …
- fondling is fondling. Not rape.
- indecent touching is indecent touching. Not rape.
- seducing a minor is seducing a minor Not rape.
Kent man gets 26 years for broadcasting rape of child on Internet
Reading this headline, I imagine a man having penetrative intercourse with a 4 year old. Without being a medical specialist, I believe that this must cause major injuries. How come, there is no report about this? No penalty for injuring a child?
- Most likely because all he did was fondling.
- Child molestation, yes.
- Should he be punished? Yes.
- But if all he did was fondling, 26 years and more, in jail? If he threw the child against the wall, beat the child with broom handles, burned it with cigarettes, he would get a lesser punishment.
- Did he rape in the true sense of rape? penetration? most likely not. But impossible to know. Why? Intentional disinformation.
- And of course we can not watch the Video he transmitted over the internet, of what he did to the child. Just watching the video would be a heinous crime. Strange! But youtube is full of videos of nannies beating and shaking toddlers in health endangering ways. No penalty for watching physical child abuse.
- I want to know the truth of the crime. Can I know the truth? No! why not? because the word rape was banalized. Used for all kinds of meanings. We don’t know any more what “rape” is.
Interesting link with interesting articles. Very politically incorrect
Roman Polanski was imprisoned since September when he entered Switzerland’s Zuric Airport for accepting an award. He is not only accused of raping an underage girl of 13 years but also is accused of escaping from the US police since 1978. If the charges against him are proved then he might face severe penalty like extradition. The director though has escaped all charges and has moved freely in different parts of Europe like any other independent citizens, now he will have to defend himself from the charges against him if he wants to live freely rest of his life.^
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Cover Stories Behavior: When Is It RAPE? Interesting older Time Magazine article analysing “rape”. I don’t agree with the overly feminist attitude, but it is a good overview
According to Sharia rape in marriage is not possible This is worth analyzing. Obvious violent rape in marriage, with proof, should be punished. But unprovem rape allegations by a wife should be seen with great suspicion. And if there is no sex in marriage, maybe they should not be married but divorce.
feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/16/when-is-rape-at-gunpoint-not-rape-when-its-theft-of-services/ this is a shocking story about a gang rape of a prostitute, which was considered “theft of service” and not rape. But the link to the original source is dead, so it looks like a feminist hoax.
you know i feel bad about this law..i was days away from being 16 and was with a guy that was 24, and i left him or we just stopped talking i cant really remember anymore..but i remeber going off with him one day and my parents wanted me to stay at home..but i left with him. and the police came to the his house, and threatened him..i think thats why we stopped talking..anyways a few days later he get’s arrested, and i looked at his booking charges on the internet, and it’s horrible he’s still in jail after 2 years and they still havent went to court, but i know it was child molestation, sodomy, distribution of alchol to a minor,aggravated child molestation, sexual battery. I will admit i was very seductive, and i looked 20 and i had lied about my age in the beggining. i just dont understand how the law can be so ludacris.
http://apublicdefender.com/2007/10/05/why-i-hate-statutory-rape-laws/#comment-58005
Interesting comment. An example of a “victim” that did not want to be protected by the law.
The upshot of this narrow, archaic definition is that many rapes are excluded from the [FBI’s annual crime] statistics — including forced anal sex and/or oral sex, vaginal or anal fisting, rape with an object (even if serious injuries result), and other injurious and degrading sexual assaults that would be considered rape by any rational adult.
A press release from the foundation added: “It also excludes statutory rape and omits rape by men against men and any rape by a woman. Moreover, this out-dated definition of rape excludes the use of drugs or alcohol to subdue a victim, a common tactic used today.” We aren’t talking about a minor quibble over language; these are critical omissions that cast this week’s finding that the rape rate is declining in a much less encouraging light.
http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/09/14/rape_hearing
We are all in favor of clarity. Anal rape, male on male rape should be included. Even statutory rape, if someone wants to add it, provided it does not get mixed up in general rape numbers but as a separate category.
We do not want to link to change.org sucks, but there are some intelligent commentators in this post, that make it worth reading:
womensrights.change.org/blog/view/the_fbis_shockingly_narrow_definition_of_rape
I have added into the text: About rape by broken marriage vow in India, about Whoppi Goldberg’s rape-rape, …
Whoppi Goldberg differentiates “rape-rape” and non-violent so called “rape”
Hollywood has rallied behind Roman Polanski after his arrest in Switzerland over the weekend, with the actor Whoopi Goldberg suggesting that whatever he was guilty of it wasn’t “rape-rape”.
As a guest on The View chatshow on US television, she said: “I know it wasn’t rape-rape. It was something else but I don’t believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and when they let him out he was like, ‘You know what, this guy’s going to give me a hundred years in jail. I’m not staying.’ So that’s why he left.”
Polanski was not guilty of ‘rape-rape’, says Whoopi Goldberg
miketheexpert
Didn’t read the article, but I was acussed of rape two times in my life. The first was a drunk girl that I knew, and she got really drunk, hotnhorney one night. I told her that I was putting her in my bed, and she should wake my up on the couch the next morning, instead, she pulls me into bed, jumps on top of me, thrusting her tits in my face, and pulled my pants down, after which I did hers, and we ‘tried’ to have sex, except she was soooooo dry, that it never happened.
The next time was a girlfriend that somehow scored some crack and so so fucked up, she opened the front door and screemed ‘rape’. I left my house, made a huge scratch on the back of my neck, and when the cops arrived, they saw the scratch and said, “she was obviously the aggressor”. I never did anything wrong with either one… but the first one, she knew all my friends and then I lost them just as quick. About 5 years later, she confessed that I didn’t rape her, but at that time, my friends were already gone.
**** another comment from reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cw549/when_a_rape_is_not_a_rape_the_abuse_of_the_word/
kasumi1190
I have no sympathy for anyone who acts out on pedophilia. I am even open enough to understand some people have these sexual fantasies, and I would even go so far to say it’s not really even a sickness but just simply another sexual fetish. It is unfortunately one of those things you can’t act out without harming another person. If someone molests a child like that, who cares whether there was actual penetration or not? You think any less harm is done to a child because of this? I understand the word is actually being slightly being misused from it’s definition, but who the fuck really cares in this instance.
I however agree that it should be changed for statutory rape, because 9/10 it’s just consensual sex with someone who is usually barely even a minor. But pedophile cases, who really has enough sympathy for them to argue over this? Who cares?
** another comment taken from http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cw549/when_a_rape_is_not_a_rape_the_abuse_of_the_word/
There has been a lengthy discussion on reddit, worth reading. Please continue the discussion here
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cw549/when_a_rape_is_not_a_rape_the_abuse_of_the_word/
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I will make a few exerpts from Reddit here
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Keyaira14
No, the point was actually I believe perfectly made. Here the person discusses the fact that rape is now a term given to all kinds of offenses, wether or not rape as it is usually understood (forced penetration etc.) was involved. And by that it makes the point that it also diminishes the meaning of the word rape. The fact is that, knowing that “rape” could be almost anything, one might read of a rape and think it very plausible that in fact there was no “true” rape, but a lesser offense. And the possible error made here makes the point all the more valid! When one reads “rape of a 15 years old by a 35 years old” and concludes that it might well have been the old man seducing the girl and then being convicted of rape, while in fact it WAS a “true” rape, I think it proves beyond ANY reasonable doubt that, because of it’s overuse, rape lost a great part of it’s meaning.