“Yes” means “No”

You have a girl friend under the local age of consent, and you (unwisely) want to have sex with her. Don’t bother to ask for her consent to sex.  Just ravish her violently, no matter how much she resists. It makes no difference if she consents or not. Her “yes” means “no”, her consent is invalid. Either way, if she consents or not, you are raping her. And all rapes are the same.

This is not my fault. I am not making this up. This is our modern law and modern logic.

“No” means “No”, too.

Minors under 18 (or 16) years of age can not consent to sex.  If s/he says “Yes”, it means “No”. If she says “No”, it means “No”, too.

A underage girl’s consent it totally irrelevant

  1. On the way home 3 young men drag 15 year old Maria into an abandoned lot, 2 men hold her down and one rapes her violently, against her protests and screams.
  2. 15 year old Maria begs her boyfriend to make love to her and they have a great love-making session.
What is the difference between (1) and (2)?

Both (1) and (2) are exactly the same: non-consensual rape!. If she consented or fought back makes no difference!

I am really sorry, forgive me.

I am not insensitive to rape victims.

Maria, if you think that forcible rape and love making are not the same, you are mistaken! You are too young to understand the wisdom of the elders, that know that these are the same.

I am sorry,it is not my fault. I did not make this up. I swear.  On the contrary, I dare to challenge conventional wisdom and write against this insanity.

There are cases where a 15 or 17 year old girl begs a judge not to jail her boyfriend and common law husband, father, financial supporter and caretaker of her baby. But, the laws are there to protect her (?from what??), and thus she is left a penniless single mother with a jailed boyfriend in prison.

We fail to see how this serves the well being of the child, which is of extreme importance to the law.

All rapes are the same

We just learned, from Vice President Biden “Rape is rape is rape” : all types of rape are the same.  British Kenneth Clarke said  that “some “rapes” are less serious then others” but was forced to recant.  Clarke explicitly stated that a 17 year old boy making love with his 15 year old girl friend is not the same as dragging someone into the bushes. A media outcry corrected him and recanted. So it is the consensus, that both are the same.

Feminist manipulative language made sure that almost every sex act is a potential rape. And now it is clarified that all rapes are the same.

“I love you, please make love to me” = “NOOO, don’t touch me, leave me alone”
lovey-dovey-feeling =

(is equal to)

rape-ducks

Offensive to forcible rape victims


"Yes" means "No"

You have a girl friend under the local age of consent, and you (unwisely) want to have sex with her. Don’t bother to ask for her consent to sex.  Just ravish her violently, no matter how much she resists. It makes no difference if she consents or not. Her "yes" means "no", her consent is invalid. Either way, if she consents or not, you are raping her. And all rapes are the same.

This is not my fault. I am not making this up. This is our modern law and modern logic. 

"No" means "No", too.

Minors under 18 (or 16) years of age can not consent to sex.  If s/he says "Yes", it means "No". If she says "No", it means "No", too.

A underage girl’s consent it totally irrelevant

  1. On the way home 3 young men drag 15 year old Maria into an abandoned lot, 2 men hold her down and one rapes her violently, against her protests and screams.
  2. 15 year old Maria begs her boyfriend to make love to her and they have a great love-making session.
What is the difference between (1) and (2)?

Both (1) and (2) are exactly the same: non-consensual rape!. If she consented or fought back makes no difference!

I am really sorry, forgive me.

I am not insensitive to rape victims.

Maria, if you think that forcible rape and love making are not the same, you are mistaken! You are too young to understand the wisdom of the elders, that know that these are the same.

I am sorry,it is not my fault. I did not make this up. I swear.  On the contrary, I dare to challenge conventional wisdom and write against this insanity.

There are cases where a 15 or 17 year old girl begs a judge not to jail her boyfriend and common law husband, father, financial supporter and caretaker of her baby. But, the laws are there to protect her (?from what??), and thus she is left a penniless single mother with a jailed boyfriend in prison. 

We fail to see how this serves the well being of the child, which is of extreme importance to the law.

All rapes are the same

We just learned, from Vice President Biden "Rape is rape is rape" : all types of rape are the same.  British Kenneth Clarke said  that "some "rapes" are less serious then others" but was forced to recant.  Clarke explicitly stated that a 17 year old boy making love with his 15 year old girl friend is not the same as dragging someone into the bushes. A media outcry corrected him and recanted. So it is the consensus, that both are the same.

Feminist manipulative language made sure that almost every sex act is a potential rape. And now it is clarified that all rapes are the same.

"I love you, please make love to me"

=

"NOOO, don’t touch me, leave me alone"
lovey-dovey-feeling

=

(is equal to)

rape-ducks

Offensive to forcible rape victims


"Yes" means "No"

You have a girl friend under the local age of consent, and you (unwisely) want to have sex with her. Don’t bother to ask for her consent to sex.  Just ravish her violently, no matter how much she resists. It makes no difference if she consents or not. Her "yes" means "no", her consent is invalid. Either way, if she consents or not, you are raping her. And all rapes are the same.

This is not my fault. I am not making this up. This is our modern law and modern logic. 

"No" means "No", too.

Minors under 18 (or 16) years of age can not consent to sex.  If s/he says "Yes", it means "No". If she says "No", it means "No", too.

A underage girl’s consent it totally irrelevant

  1. On the way home 3 young men drag 15 year old Maria into an abandoned lot, 2 men hold her down and one rapes her violently, against her protests and screams.
  2. 15 year old Maria begs her boyfriend to make love to her and they have a great love-making session.
What is the difference between (1) and (2)?

Both (1) and (2) are exactly the same: non-consensual rape!. If she consented or fought back makes no difference!

I am really sorry, forgive me.

I am not insensitive to rape victims.

Maria, if you think that forcible rape and love making are not the same, you are mistaken! You are too young to understand the wisdom of the elders, that know that these are the same.

I am sorry,it is not my fault. I did not make this up. I swear.  On the contrary, I dare to challenge conventional wisdom and write against this insanity.

There are cases where a 15 or 17 year old girl begs a judge not to jail her boyfriend and common law husband, father, financial supporter and caretaker of her baby. But, the laws are there to protect her (?from what??), and thus she is left a penniless single mother with a jailed boyfriend in prison. 

We fail to see how this serves the well being of the child, which is of extreme importance to the law.

All rapes are the same

We just learned, from Vice President Biden "Rape is rape is rape" : all types of rape are the same.  British Kenneth Clarke said  that "some "rapes" are less serious then others" but was forced to recant.  Clarke explicitly stated that a 17 year old boy making love with his 15 year old girl friend is not the same as dragging someone into the bushes. A media outcry corrected him and recanted. So it is the consensus, that both are the same.

Feminist manipulative language made sure that almost every sex act is a potential rape. And now it is clarified that all rapes are the same.

"I love you, please make love to me"

=

"NOOO, don’t touch me, leave me alone"
lovey-dovey-feeling

=

(is equal to)

rape-ducks

Offensive to forcible rape victims

Human-Stupidity has, repeatedly, assailed the tendency in modern law, incited by feminism, to “rape” and manipulate language, to use inaccurate and deliberately inflammatory, emotive language to try to foster a hidden agenda.

Due to feminist zeal to vilify consensual lovers of adolescent women, we belittle the true suffering of victims of forcible rape victims.

Human-Stupidity thinks it it truly offensive to the underage victims of real forcible violent rape

  • to totally equate their suffering to the the “suffering” of willing participants in sex,
  • to equate their resistance and unequivocal non-consent to the voluntary though legally invalid consent, or
  • equate their violent abuse  to the suddenly withdrawn consent in a “six second rape”.

Human-Stupidity thinks that this language manipulation is an offense to our intellect, our language, to victims of forcible rape. A devious way to criminalize adolescent’s consensual sexuality without the masses noticing the plot.

 

Consent, rape & minors. What is consent to sex?

Any six year old knows perfectly well if s/he is coerced while overpowered and threatened, or acts consensually out of free will.

Try to explain her/him that the stupid adults have defined all sexual activity even of late 17 year or 15 year old  adolescents as non-consensual. So it is the same “non-consensual rape” if a 17 year old takes the initiative to work hard to seduce an adult to have sex, or if the same adult rapes him/her at knifepoint.

The first example is “statutory rape”  and the second is “forcible rape”, the reader might retort. That differentiation has long been lost outside theoretical academic discussion.  Remember: all rapes are equal. Rape is rape is rape.

The press happily reports about trials and conviction of “rapists” that raped the victim 300 times. No, she did not lock up the “victim” in a dungeon for years, like Mr. Fritzl. The victim came always came back for more, but did not consent (by our weird definition of legal consent). Human-Stupidity even documented a case where the rapist, unbeknownst to him,  was duped by the victim into raping her.

Children of 6,8, or 15 years risk serious legal consequences, even jail, if they don’t know these confusing definitions and regulations. Therefore this ought to be be mandatory elementary school subject.

Lingering doubts about the logic and necessity of age of consent laws

It looks like a symptom of our overcriminalization that formerly normal behavior, behavior that a major percentage of the population engages in is now a heinous felony.

The most parsimonious explanation is the antifeminist hypothesis, that this is to due to the sexual Trade Union of older feminists to reduce sexual opportunities for older men and young attractive adolescent women. Robert Kurzban adds to this that less successful males and even alpha males also increase their mating opportunities by repressing other people’s sexual freedom.
(Tiger Woods, hypocrisy, moral condemnation of promiscuity) // Why everyone (else) is a hypocrite (Robert Kurzban) )

 

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Human-Stupidity has, repeatedly, assailed the tendency in modern law, incited by feminism, to "rape" and manipulate language, to use inaccurate and deliberately inflammatory, emotive language to try to foster a hidden agenda.

Due to feminist zeal to vilify consensual lovers of adolescent women, we belittle the true suffering of victims of forcible rape victims.

Human-Stupidity thinks it it truly offensive to the underage victims of real forcible violent rape

  • to totally equate their suffering to the the "suffering" of willing participants in sex,
  • to equate their resistance and unequivocal non-consent to the voluntary though legally invalid consent, or
  • equate their violent abuse  to the suddenly withdrawn consent in a "six second rape".

Human-Stupidity thinks that this language manipulation is an offense to our intellect, our language, to victims of forcible rape. A devious way to criminalize adolescent’s consensual sexuality without the masses noticing the plot.

 

Consent, rape & minors. What is consent to sex?

Any six year old knows perfectly well if s/he is coerced while overpowered and threatened, or acts consensually out of free will.

Try to explain her/him that the stupid adults have defined all sexual activity even of late 17 year or 15 year old  adolescents as non-consensual. So it is the same "non-consensual rape" if a 17 year old takes the initiative to work hard to seduce an adult to have sex, or if the same adult rapes him/her at knifepoint. 

The first example is "statutory rape"  and the second is "forcible rape", the reader might retort. That differentiation has long been lost outside theoretical academic discussion.  Remember: all rapes are equal. Rape is rape is rape.

The press happily reports about trials and conviction of "rapists" that raped the victim 300 times. No, she did not lock up the "victim" in a dungeon for years, like Mr. Fritzl. The victim came always came back for more, but did not consent (by our weird definition of legal consent). Human-Stupidity even documented a case where the rapist, unbeknownst to him,  was duped by the victim into raping her.

Children of 6,8, or 15 years risk serious legal consequences, even jail, if they don’t know these confusing definitions and regulations. Therefore this ought to be be mandatory elementary school subject.

Lingering doubts about the logic and necessity of age of consent laws

It looks like a symptom of our overcriminalization that formerly normal behavior, behavior that a major percentage of the population engages in is now a heinous felony.

The most parsimonious explanation is the antifeminist hypothesis, that this is to due to the sexual Trade Union of older feminists to reduce sexual opportunities for older men and young attractive adolescent women. Robert Kurzban adds to this that less successful males and even alpha males also increase their mating opportunities by repressing other people’s sexual freedom. 
(Tiger Woods, hypocrisy, moral condemnation of promiscuity) // Why everyone (else) is a hypocrite (Robert Kurzban) )

 

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Human-Stupidity has, repeatedly, assailed the tendency in modern law, incited by feminism, to "rape" and manipulate language, to use inaccurate and deliberately inflammatory, emotive language to try to foster a hidden agenda.

Due to feminist zeal to vilify consensual lovers of adolescent women, we belittle the true suffering of victims of forcible rape victims.

Human-Stupidity thinks it it truly offensive to the underage victims of real forcible violent rape

  • to totally equate their suffering to the the "suffering" of willing participants in sex,
  • to equate their resistance and unequivocal non-consent to the voluntary though legally invalid consent, or
  • equate their violent abuse  to the suddenly withdrawn consent in a "six second rape".

Human-Stupidity thinks that this language manipulation is an offense to our intellect, our language, to victims of forcible rape. A devious way to criminalize adolescent’s consensual sexuality without the masses noticing the plot.

 

Consent, rape & minors. What is consent to sex?

Any six year old knows perfectly well if s/he is coerced while overpowered and threatened, or acts consensually out of free will.

Try to explain her/him that the stupid adults have defined all sexual activity even of late 17 year or 15 year old  adolescents as non-consensual. So it is the same "non-consensual rape" if a 17 year old takes the initiative to work hard to seduce an adult to have sex, or if the same adult rapes him/her at knifepoint. 

The first example is "statutory rape"  and the second is "forcible rape", the reader might retort. That differentiation has long been lost outside theoretical academic discussion.  Remember: all rapes are equal. Rape is rape is rape.

The press happily reports about trials and conviction of "rapists" that raped the victim 300 times. No, she did not lock up the "victim" in a dungeon for years, like Mr. Fritzl. The victim came always came back for more, but did not consent (by our weird definition of legal consent). Human-Stupidity even documented a case where the rapist, unbeknownst to him,  was duped by the victim into raping her.

Children of 6,8, or 15 years risk serious legal consequences, even jail, if they don’t know these confusing definitions and regulations. Therefore this ought to be be mandatory elementary school subject.

Lingering doubts about the logic and necessity of age of consent laws

It looks like a symptom of our overcriminalization that formerly normal behavior, behavior that a major percentage of the population engages in is now a heinous felony.

The most parsimonious explanation is the antifeminist hypothesis, that this is to due to the sexual Trade Union of older feminists to reduce sexual opportunities for older men and young attractive adolescent women. Robert Kurzban adds to this that less successful males and even alpha males also increase their mating opportunities by repressing other people’s sexual freedom. 
(Tiger Woods, hypocrisy, moral condemnation of promiscuity) // Why everyone (else) is a hypocrite (Robert Kurzban) )

 

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  1. Barry Adams says:

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    You’re distorting what the law says. Sure, people may say “all rape is rape,” but the justice system doesn’t. Statutory law is a separate crime, as any first-year law student knows.

  2. admin says:

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    Well, Biden, the Vice President of the United States, Cameron the prime minister of Britain, and most of the feminist establishment say all rapes are the same.

    All press reports state things like “Boy raped 50 times”. Nobody wonders why he is dumb enough to get himself raped 50 times? Because he came back 49 times. He enjoyed and wanted the rape.

    If you look at many legal codes, they also state that there is no difference, that sex with a minor is rape.

    It started with “statutory rape”, a deceptive term, in preparation to leave out the word “statutory”.

    There was no need to invent the term “statutory rape”, as there is none to rename feeding junk food to obese toddlers “statutory poisoning” or “statutory murder”.

    There already was a terminology “unlawful intercourse with a minor”, “illicit sex with a minor”, very very clear terms. No need to rename well defined terms.

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    1) My grandmother was 15 when she and my grandfather (22) married. Had they fallen in love in this day and age, my grandfather would have gone to prison and went through life with a child molestation charge on his permanent criminal record. I would never have existed.

    2) My older brother had just turned 18 when his girlfriend, who was 1 month away from turning 16, found out she was pregnant. She told one of her teachers asking for advice, the teacher called the police, and my brother went to jail. The girlfriend and her parents went to court in defense of my brother, but he still served jail time and now has a rape and child molestation charge on his record. They have now been married for 12 years and they have a beautiful 13 year old daughter.

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    “How come that 15 year old adolescents actually can consent to sex with a 15 year old but not with a 22 year old? What is the scientific evidence that sex with a 22 year old is is damaging but sex with a 15 year old is not?”

    Some people are against adult-teen sex saying that as the teen is less developed cognitively, she is at the risk of exploitation, having sex with the adult in exchange for money, clothes, whatever.

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