If mugging laws were like rape laws

Woman: I would like to report a mugging. Last year was drunk running around the street. I met a man who told me a sob story about her owing $1000 rent. He was very convincing. I felt so loving and caring that I just went with him to the ATM and gave him $1000. Now that I am sober, and after ruminating for a few months, I am sorry I gave the money and want to report this robbery. He deserves jail.

  • In a normal non-rape context, the receiving person might be asked to return the money. But never would he be jailed for robbery for accepting money from a lightly drunk stranger. Much less if she complained 6 months after the fact.

    This post is not meant to ridicule true victims of forcible rape. It is meant as a reminder that, unlike in muggers, those accused of rape are not guaranteed constitutional rights of due process.

    Alleged rapists are jailed based on unproven alccusations. Like Strauss-Kahn. This leads to suffering for the falsely accused. It also leads to waste of police time, and decreases the credibility of true victims of rape. It also encourages false accusations, see http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/

Officer: You are very brave for coming forward. If you were drunk and driving, you would be arrested, but since you were just drunk and stupid, you’re a poor helpless victim. What monster could have done this to you?

Woman: His name is Joe Smith.

Officer: Well, we will go to his place of employment and very loudly announce that he is under arrest for such a terrible crime. He will probably lose his job just due to the accusation. If he is well known, even though he has not yet been tried, we will plaster his face over all newspapers and news channels. Luckily our society is one which no longer believes that “innocent until proven guilty” hogwash, we now have a “let’s hang him just to be safe” approach to crime. He will probably receive death threats, abuse from strangers in public, and may even be forced to move over this allegation.

Woman: Wow, that is great for revenge. What about the trial?

Officer: Even though we have no evidence other than your accusation, we will charge him, as no further evidence is needed thanks to new laws. If he takes it to trial, he will probably spend 15 years in prison, and will be the brunt of abuse of other inmates. Most likely however, the 15 year sentence will scare him enough that he will plead out. He will be in prison for 4-10 years, then when he get out and be on a public registry. If he has children he may never see them again. He will forever be ridiculed by the public and in a sense be a pariah.

Woman: And if after he has spent 7 years in prison, you find out I lied?

Officer: The DA will probably not even file charges, unless there is clear proof you knowingly and maliciously falsely accused the person. This is almost impossible, because you filed charges 6 months after the crime.  If there is absolutely convincing proof, or your confession, you will have to pay a $150 fine. If you have bad luck, we will sentence you to a year probation. We will try to keep it quiet, otherwise other mugging victims may not come forward. He may or may not be released. It helps us if he’s not because now our D.A. and police department can run around and show everyone that we’re doing a great job getting another violent, misanthropic criminal off of the street. It’s win win for everyone, and if he complains about how his life is ruined, he should just man up and get over it.

Woman: Oh no! But what happens if I want to report another mugging after you find out I have been lying?

Officer: Thanks to mugging shield laws, it can never be brought up at trial, you can put as many men in prison as you like.

786279aWoman: Well, if that’s the case, then I want to report another mugging. Bob Johnson, the cab driver, had mugged me a few nights ago. I know that he had me arrested because I had taken the ride and didn’t have any money to pay him, but it was really because he mugged me.

Officer: We will drop all charges against you and arrest Bob Johnson immediately.

Woman: A year ago I reported a (real) robbery. I had been walking around in a bad neighborhood, flashing my money around and someone threatened me with a knife and took my money. Police officer Miller took my report and actually brought the case to trial. But Miller also also told me that it is unwise to walk around drunk flashing cash at night in a bad neighborhood. That is victim blaming.  What sort of world is this where a woman can’t even run around drunk flashing all of his cash and become a victim of unwanted attention?

Woman: I would like to report a mugging. Last year was drunk running around the street. I met a man who told me a sob story about her owing $1000 rent. He was very convincing. I felt so loving and caring that I just went with her to the ATM and gave her $1000. Now that I am sober, and after ruminating for a few months, I am sorry I gave the money and want to report this robbery. He deserves jail.

  • In  a normal non-rape context, the receiving person might be asked to return the money. But never would he be jailed for robbery for accepting money from a lightly drunk stranger. Much less if she complained 6 months after the fact.

Officer: You are very brave for coming forward. If you were drunk and driving, you would be arrested, but since you were just drunk and stupid, you’re a poor helpless victim. What monster could have done this to you?

Woman: His name is Joe Smith.

Officer: Well, we will go to his place of employment and very loudly announce that he is under arrest for such a terrible crime. He will probably lose his job just due to the accusation. If he is well known, even though he has not yet been tried, we will plaster his face over all newspapers and news channels. Luckily our society is one which no longer believes that "innocent until proven guilty" hogwash, we now have a "let’s hang him just to be safe" approach to crime. He will probably receive death threats, abuse from strangers in public, and may even be forced to move over this allegation.

Woman: Wow, that is great for revenge. What about the trial?

Officer: Even though we have no evidence other than your accusation, we will charge him, as no further evidence is needed thanks to new laws. If he takes it to trial, he will probably spend 15 years in prison, and will be the brunt of abuse of other inmates. Most likely however, the 15 year sentence will scare him enough that he will plead out. He will be in prison for 4-10 years, then when he get out and be on a public registry. If he has children he may never see them again. He will forever be ridiculed by the public and in a sense be a pariah.

Woman: And if after he has spent 7 years in prison, you find out I lied?

Officer: The DA will probably not even file charges, unless there is clear proof you knowingly and maliciously falsely accused the person. This is almost impossible, because you filed charges 6 months after the crime.  If there is absolutely convincing proof, or your confession, you will have to pay a $150 fine. If you have bad luck, we will sentence you to a year probation. We will try to keep it quiet, otherwise other mugging victims may not come forward. He may or may not be released. It helps us if he’s not because now our D.A. and police department can run around and show everyone that we’re doing a great job getting another violent, misanthropic criminal off of the street. It’s win win for everyone, and if he complains about how his life is ruined, he should just man up and get over it.

Woman: Oh no! But what happens if I want to report another mugging after you find out I have been lying?

Officer: Thanks to mugging shield laws, it can never be brought up at trial, you can put as many men in prison as you like.

786279aWoman: Well, if that’s the case, then I want to report another mugging. Bob Johnson, the cab driver, had mugged me a few nights ago. I know that he had me arrested because I had taken the ride and didn’t have any money to pay him, but it was really because he mugged me.

Officer: We will drop all charges against you and arrest Bob Johnson immediately.

Woman: A year ago I reported a (real) robbery. I had been walking around in a bad neighborhood, flashing my money around and someone threatened me with a knife and took my money. Police officer Miller took my report and actually brought the case to trial. But Miller also also told me that it is unwise to walk around drunk flashing cash at night in a bad neighborhood. That is victim blaming.  What sort of world is this where a woman can’t even run around drunk flashing all of his cash and become a victim of unwanted attention?

Woman: I would like to report a mugging. Last year was drunk running around the street. I met a man who told me a sob story about her owing $1000 rent. He was very convincing. I felt so loving and caring that I just went with her to the ATM and gave her $1000. Now that I am sober, and after ruminating for a few months, I am sorry I gave the money and want to report this robbery. He deserves jail.

  • In  a normal non-rape context, the receiving person might be asked to return the money. But never would he be jailed for robbery for accepting money from a lightly drunk stranger. Much less if she complained 6 months after the fact.

Officer: You are very brave for coming forward. If you were drunk and driving, you would be arrested, but since you were just drunk and stupid, you’re a poor helpless victim. What monster could have done this to you?

Woman: His name is Joe Smith.

Officer: Well, we will go to his place of employment and very loudly announce that he is under arrest for such a terrible crime. He will probably lose his job just due to the accusation. If he is well known, even though he has not yet been tried, we will plaster his face over all newspapers and news channels. Luckily our society is one which no longer believes that "innocent until proven guilty" hogwash, we now have a "let’s hang him just to be safe" approach to crime. He will probably receive death threats, abuse from strangers in public, and may even be forced to move over this allegation.

Woman: Wow, that is great for revenge. What about the trial?

Officer: Even though we have no evidence other than your accusation, we will charge him, as no further evidence is needed thanks to new laws. If he takes it to trial, he will probably spend 15 years in prison, and will be the brunt of abuse of other inmates. Most likely however, the 15 year sentence will scare him enough that he will plead out. He will be in prison for 4-10 years, then when he get out and be on a public registry. If he has children he may never see them again. He will forever be ridiculed by the public and in a sense be a pariah.

Woman: And if after he has spent 7 years in prison, you find out I lied?

Officer: The DA will probably not even file charges, unless there is clear proof you knowingly and maliciously falsely accused the person. This is almost impossible, because you filed charges 6 months after the crime.  If there is absolutely convincing proof, or your confession, you will have to pay a $150 fine. If you have bad luck, we will sentence you to a year probation. We will try to keep it quiet, otherwise other mugging victims may not come forward. He may or may not be released. It helps us if he’s not because now our D.A. and police department can run around and show everyone that we’re doing a great job getting another violent, misanthropic criminal off of the street. It’s win win for everyone, and if he complains about how his life is ruined, he should just man up and get over it.

Woman: Oh no! But what happens if I want to report another mugging after you find out I have been lying?

Officer: Thanks to mugging shield laws, it can never be brought up at trial, you can put as many men in prison as you like.

786279aWoman: Well, if that’s the case, then I want to report another mugging. Bob Johnson, the cab driver, had mugged me a few nights ago. I know that he had me arrested because I had taken the ride and didn’t have any money to pay him, but it was really because he mugged me.

Officer: We will drop all charges against you and arrest Bob Johnson immediately.

Woman: A year ago I reported a (real) robbery. I had been walking around in a bad neighborhood, flashing my money around and someone threatened me with a knife and took my money. Police officer Miller took my report and actually brought the case to trial. But Miller also also told me that it is unwise to walk around drunk flashing cash at night in a bad neighborhood. That is victim blaming.  What sort of world is this where a woman can’t even run around drunk flashing all of his cash and become a victim of unwanted attention?

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One in two rape accusations are false! Strauss-Kahn, presumed guilty, jailed, slandered without due process, escaped. Others are not so lucky!

One in two rape accusations (over 50%) are false: Dominique Strauss-Kahn escaped the inquisition. Others are not so lucky. They get convicted, falsely. We wish we could say Dominique Strauss-Kahn escaped unscathed. But he suffered tremendously. He lost his job. Speculator could have made Billions, because the value of the Euro dropped due to his arrest, and other unexpected stock market irregularities occurred. 

Let us remember the thousands of men that are less lucky then Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

For every Strauss-Kahn, there are dozens of men that don’t escape unjust persecution

After: strauss-kahn-innocentOne in two rape accusations are false. Like Strauss-Kahn, thousands of men are presumed guilty, jailed and smeared without due process. They can not afford to spend millions of dollars for bail, a dream team of lawyers, detectives, and their own guards for domestic prison as Dominique Strauss-Kahn did. We only hear of the few lucky ones that escape. The Jörg Kachelmann rape case in Germany similarly ruined a successful public man’s career, had a man spend months in jail, because of unproven uncorroborated accusations by a woman, who also was caught red-handed lying about important facts.

"Of course, if she is a liar, that still does not mean she was raped. " Yes, but in that case, she’d better bring a long a tape recording proving the act of rape against her clear resistance. In our legal system, where men accused of sexual offenses are presumed guilty until proven innocent, they have to provide proof of their innocence. In the famous Hofstra false rape case the male victims of false rape accusations were only freed after providing video recording that showed that the sex act was totally consensual and very different then described in the false accusations.

For every acquitted man, there are dozens of unjustly imprisoned victims of false rape accusations.

Before: Guilty until proven innocentNow consider this, how many men take video recordings of their sex acts so that they can later prove the consensual nature of their sex acts? Can you imagine: for every man that can prove his innocence, how many men stay in jail and go to prison, upon unproven, wrong allegations of sexual misconduct? Remember: One in two rape accusations are false.

No wonder, that with such medieval legal practice

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Shoot London rioters on sight! Politically correct humanitarianism risks lives of good citizens to save looters and hooligans

120792132DK018_RIOTING_BREAPolitical correctness and humanitarianism and human rights were invented by civilized intelligent academics.  They might work for civilized intelligent populations.  These good intentions have been maligned for giving more protection to felons then to their innocent law abiding victims.

Applying these rules to uncontrollable criminally minded looters and hooligans has terrible effects: good citizen’s physical integrity, lives, health, financial integrity get destroyed by such criminals. 

A furniture shop in Croydon which had been in the same family for five generations was completely destroyed after being torched. Owner Trevor Rees, 56, said the business was started in 1867 by his great-great- grandfather, Edwin Reeves, and employed 15 people. Sky News

London-riotsKilling a few rioters might save lives of innocent people. At least it can prevent HUGE property damage and suffering for millions of citizens who stay locked at home in fear instead of proceeding with their normal productive lives. Order and safety for ordinary citizens should be above the rights of violent dangerous felons.

Commander Christine Jones said events were "simply inexcusable".

"Ordinary people have had their lives turned upside down by this mindless thuggery," she said.

"The Met will ensure that those responsible will face the consequences of their actions and be arrested." Sky News

Humanely arresting a marauding crowd of arsonists is not practical. It will not protect safety and property of good citizens, it will not stop and prevent imminent danger.

120817027PM015_RIOTS_AND_LOPut a camera on the sights of the guns of police. Make sure that everyone shot was engaged in an act of dangerous violence, with arms, crow bars, Molotov Cocktails, and was not in self defense against criminals. If non-lethal violence can be used. But don’t be shy to use deadly force. One can even arrest an entire crowd: have you seen 5 policemen controlling a huge crowd of riotous prisoners, lying on the ground? The prisoners know, one false move and they get shot.

Using lethal force, there will be inevitable collateral damage. Certainly less damage then done by week-long riots.This damage should be accepted and excused, provided it can be shown to be accidental and due to true honest mistakes. Honest serious policemen, and citizens defending their life and property should be excused in case of honest battlefield mistakes.

Yes, we want to provoke to think different. Yes we see that there are problems in our attitude. We see that there are serious problem in the unquestioning humanitarianism that protects criminals and creates havoc.

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Way over 50% of rape accusations are false. 7.4% blatantly enough to prosecute (Bavarian Police research report)

1894 complaints of rape and sexual assault were filed to police of the state of Bavaria in 2000.  The consensus estimate of all responsible officials is that way over 50% of accusations are false.  Even when accusations are very dubious, police still file rape/sexual assault proceedings with prosecutors. Only in 7.4% of the complaints (1 in 13, N= 140) they propose legal action against the accuser for evidently false accusations, when there is clear proof or confession. The results of this meticulous 320 page research about rape and sexual assault in Bavaria replicate a less rigorous study in Schleswig Holstein state in 1994/1995, where 7.6% of complaints led to filing of false police report.

 

The following 320 page study analyses police inquiries of rape and sexual assault, and how police forwards these cases to prosecutors. It is based on all 1894 such complaints in the state of Bavaria/Germany in the year 2000. It  deserves to be translated into English in its entirety.


  • Police officials agree that way over 50% of accusations are false

  • Even highly dubious and unlikely accusations will be forwarded to prosecutors for rape/ sexual assault prosecution, and not for prosecution for false accusations. This is why statistics show such low numbers for false rape accusations.

  • Only 7.4% of accusers are recommended for prosecution as false accusations (due to clear evidence or confessions)

  • 64% of rape/sexual assault cases dropped by prosecution for lack of evidence are considered false accusations by the police official in charge of the initial complaint

  • Thus 1/5 to 1/3 of all cases were identified as patently false accusations, by  the responsible police officials.

  • Human-Stupidity concludes that false rape is under-reported at least 7-fold


Rape and sexual assault in Bavaria | PDF

Joseph, falsely accused of rape by Potiphar's wife (Genesis 39,1 bis 39,21)Munich 2005

ISBN 3-924400-16-4

6) Faking of or false suspicion of rape or sexual assault

In 2000, among all events, that initially appeared to police to be a cases of rape or sexual assault, only 7.4% were were registered as faking of a crime or false suspicion.  In almost all of these cases there is strong evidence of these crimes [of falsehood]. Cases that remain doubtful and unclear after police inquiry will be handed to prosecutors as accusations of rape or sexual assault. (p. 176)

Police rarely send prosecutors accusations for false rape or sexual assault. This seems in stark contradiction to the [high] frequency estimates (by officials and police responsible for sexual crimes) of such false accusations . These [officials] estimate that such crimes have a very high occurrence, but don’t have statistical research data collections to back up such estimates. One department chief maintains:

"All officials dealing with sexual crimes are in agreement, that way over half the sex crimes reported to police are fake. Many such accusations cause an assumption of a sham or false accusation. But proof is not strong enough to prosecute [the accuser]. (p. 177)

The authors explain, that even in cases where there are very strong doubts about the truthfulness of the accusations, police will only file an accusation of rape or sexual assault, and not one of false accusations. This is why the statistics seem to contradict the above "over half" false accusation statement.

Let this sink in. There are clearly more false accusations then there are true accusations. Police authorities from the Christian conservative state of Bavaria/Germany agree that most rape/sexual assault accusations are false!

The report makes clear that proof of false accusations is very difficult, absent a confession of the alleged victim. In all these cases,  there will be prosecution for rape/sexual assault and not for false accusations, even if there is significant doubt as to the veracity of the accusations.

While the serious psychological and social consequences of rape and sexual assault have been the subject of various investigations, knowledge about the impact on the falsely accused is lacking. The data for our project do not permit us to arrive at definite empirical conclusions. […]

When accusations are dropped due to lack of corroborative evidence and  witnesses, then,  in spite of very significant doubts about the crime description by the alleged victim […] there always remains a residual suspicion because the accused can not totally disprove the accusation. (p. 180)

[…] adding 1754 cases recorded as rape or sexual assault for the year 2000, and 140 false accusations, yields 1894 transactions which the police initially considered rape or sexual assault.  Only 7.4% resulted in charges of false accusations of rape or sexual assault. [… results in the state of Bavaria] correspond exactly to the results of a survey (without scientific rigor) in the state of Schleswig Holstein. For the years 1994/1995 it showed a 7.6% rate of shams and false accusations demonstrated "beyond reasonable doubt". (p. 182)

There is a 1 in 13 rate of obvious false accusations. (7/4%)

The authors speculate that under the assumption of a 3 to 10 fold under-reporting of rape, that would result in a 1 in 38 (3 fold under-reporting) or one in 125 (10 fold under-reporting).  On the other hand, some of the cases passed to courts as rape or sexual assault end with a conviction for false accusations.

Human-Stupidity comment:
False accusations of rape/sexual assault are under-reported 7-fold

The above conclusions are false.

  1. First there is no scientific basis to assume 3 to 10 fold under-reporting of rape
  2. don’t forget, that police experts only report 7.4% false rapes in spite of strongly suspecting false accusations in way over 50%  of the accusations. As mentioned, if in doubt, police file only for rape/sexual assault, even if they are  convinced the complaint is false.

So there is an over 7 fold under-reporting of false rape accusations by police! (7 * 7.4% = 51.8%, which is less then "way over 50%"). Police do  file rape accusations with prosecutors, even if they clearly believe the rape has not happened. And police do not file a false rape accusation, even when they are convinced that such a crime has happened. Probably they should file BOTH rape and false rape accusations at the same time!?

Clearly false rape is an under-reported crime. We need to encourage the victims of false rape accusations to come forward and counter-sue. As quoted in the report, it is the consensus that there are more false accusations then true accusations. Men’s Right activists can learn from feminists. They can demand the same treatment for alleged victims of false rape accusations as feminists have demanded and gotten for alleged rape victims.

 

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Government-emitted ID proves she is 20. Men could not know she is 15, but will go to prison for underage sex, child porn

There is no safe way to have sex or watch porn

A girl has a 100% valid state ID, with her photo and signature, and social security card. The ID proves she is 20 years old.  You engage in sex with her, Film it. Sell it. Due to strict liability statutory rape laws there is no way how you can escape prison after it turns out the girl is 15 and conned the state into falsely giving her an ID. People who distribute your perfectly documented porn, of course go to prison.  Even the press is unaware that 100 000 men who downloaded it, with perfect proof of being over 18 years of age, also can go to prison. 

Conclusion: to have sex, watch porn, you at least need to get a US$ 30 000 background check of your partner,  A detective has to get birth records, school records, interview parents and teachers. Even that is not 100% secure. Thus: never have sex, never engage in fondling or indecent behavior and never look at any nude or indecent pictures. Ever.

Society could not function if such strict liability without mens rea were the norm.

Teen porn star Bieyanka Moore’s disaster

In early 2010, Tyler Chanel Evans, a 19-year-old exotic dancer, took under her wing a pretty, homeless girl who said her name was Bieyanka. The girl had been standing for hours outside a convenience store with an overstuffed duffel bag. A few days later, the waif stole Evans’s expired learner’s permit and copied her social security number. 

All quotes from Teen porn star Bieyanka Moore’s disaster, unless stated otherwise.

Bieyanka, it seems, outwitted many people. She wasn’t 20 as she had told Evans, but a 15-year-old runaway from Palm Beach Shores. She persuaded the State of Nevada — perhaps with an adult’s help — to improperly issue her a driver’s license in Evans’s name. And using that license, she duped Miami pornographers into illegally hiring her to have sex onscreen.  Teen porn star Bieyanka Moore’s disaster

A 15 year old girl steals the identity of another girl that helped her when she was lost. Government gives her a legal driver’s license stating her age is 20.

Bieyanka Moore: Besides Doing Porn, 15-Year-Old Runaway Went on Nevada Crime Spree With Adult’s ID

MyspaceTyler Chanel Evans– the real version.​Lawyers for RK Netmedia, owner of porn site Reality Kings, still refuse to concede that a 15-year-old runaway who went missing last year is the same person who starred in one of its hardcore films. But the evidence is getting pretty conclusive. … More >>

Appraising Strict Liability (Oxford Monographs on Criminal Law and Justice)
Appraising Strict Liability (Oxford Monographs on Criminal Law and Justice)

Then she uses that government ID to do porn movies, and, obviously, to have sex. Whose fault is this?

Of course, the people who have sex and who make porn movies. Behooves them right: why do they do porn movies? They should be in jail anyway! And you should not have sex with someone not your wife and who looks under 35? [*1] [*2].  Before sex, Human-Stupidity.com recommends not only an ID check, but a background check ,by a detective, of school records, birth hospital records and more.

Strict liability and mens rea: go to prison even if you did all possible precautions to avoid a crime

The lawsuit against RK Netmedia, which Sherrita Smalley filed in Miami-Dade court this past December, is still developing. Attorney Grossman says Imber’s LLL Advertising will soon be added as a defendant. Florida criminal law decrees that "a minor’s misrepresentation of his or her age… may not be raised as a defense" in statutory rape prosecution.

This is called "strict liability crime" [1] [2] [3]  [4]

The liability is said to be strict because defendants will be convicted even though they were genuinely ignorant of one or more factors that made their acts or omissions criminal. The defendants may therefore not be culpable in any real way, i.e. there is not even criminal negligence, the least blameworthy level of mens rea. Strict liability (criminal)

Strict liability abuse in sex "crimes". No pharmacist goes to prison for filling prescription of doctor with false diploma

Much less will the pharmacist go to prison if the diploma was correctly signed by a State University registrar.

 

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Man cut off wife’s breast and super-glued her vagina.

He was a good husband.  Out of the blue, his wife filed for divorce. She probably cheated on him before.  So he snapped. He drugged her and tied her to the bed, while unconscious. Then he waited, to make sure she was awake and would feel the mutilation. He cut off her breasts and ground them up in the garbage disposal. Isn’t that funny? She sure will never die of breast cancer! Then he cut off her clitoris, and glued her vagina shut with ample quantities of super-glue. Teaches the slut a lesson!

Catherine Kieu, 48 cut off her husband's penis and ground it up with the garbage disposalThen, in a TV talk show, a group of men makes fun of the story. Isn’t it hilarious?  The spectators have hearty laughs and giggles.  Of course, it is not the same as cutting off a man’s penis, because a penis is softer then a woman’s breast. One moderate man actually says she did not deserve it, but he can think of a woman’s crime where he would do just the same.

If a woman divorced him, got 50% of his salary  (before taxes) and gots him jailed for non-payment. Then he would discover he was cuckolded, the child was not his kid, and the courts still held him responsible for payment because he had acted as a good father and he was too trusting to do a DNA test early enough. Then the rage is understandable and she really deserves it. She still will recover and can take care of the bastard child.

Participants and audience laugh and giggle. They all agree, full of understanding.

He realized every man’s secret dream. All men secretly dream of sexually mutilating a woman, to teach her a lesson.


I just inverted the sexes, for demonstration purposes.

Men are not that vile. Never ever would a male talk show host, audience, guests condone such barbarity against women, or make fun of it.  Only women are that mean, violent and vengeful to joke and make fun of male mutilation!  It is the secret fantasy of many women to cut off a man’s penis. (People say this statement is misogynistic. I did not make this up, watch the video to believe that those woman have a good time joking about this abuse of a man)

Lorena Bobbitt cut off her husband’s penis and later demanded and got an excuse. Of course, she got no jail sentence for that. She was justified because he was a philanderer and cheated. She had real fan clubs. Go ahead and google "Lorena Bobbitt jokes".  John Waine Bobbitt never went as far as many women to, he never got a baby from a mistress, much less made his wife pay and care for a baby that was not hers. He just, allegedly, cheated.  Amazingly his penis was found and re-attached.

Catherine Kieu mutilates husband | YouTube

Cutting off a man’s penis and grinding it up afterwards is hilarious and funny

Catherine Kieu, 48 learned from Lorena’s mistake. Her husband would not get his penis back. She planned meticulously. She drugged him first, tied him up. Made sure he was awake to see and feel the punishment he deserved. After cutting off the penis, she ground it up with the sink’s electric garbage disposal. So she could be sure he never will use it again. A wonder she did not grind it while it was still attached. Or put it through a meat grinder, so he could look at it afterwards? She left him tied up. It is amazing that he did not bleed to death. She was very nice to call police, so after a long delay he finally got medical attention and would stay alive, so he could live the rest of his life without a penis and ponder what he did wrong. He must have done something to hurt her, make her angry, to deserve it.

The tax payer is paying her lawyer. I am sure he will plead battered woman syndrome, not guilty for reasons of insanity. After all, Lorena Bobbitt got away without punishment.

It is not clear if she destroyed his testicles, too. In that case, our hero would also have to extract the woman’s ovaries, to make the above example equal to Caterine’s crime.

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Old geezer perverts marry jail bait. Sexually liberated Cougars marry young men.

gal_hefner_harris[3]We do have loop holes in our sex offender laws. Obviously, Hugh Hefner preying on a woman 60 years younger is a perversion. This is just disgusting. We need laws against that. Sex or marriage with anyone more then 3 years older or younger should be a felony.  That is, if the older party is male, of course. Sexual liberation of Cougars, of the protected class "female" may not suffer consequences for their actions. May be, in this case, a 21 year old young man is taking advantage of a 51 year old woman who is unable to consent due to her irrational attraction?

Or at least violation of the "half age plus 6 years" rule should be made a felony. So 84 year old Hugh Hefner could not abuse any woman younger then 84/2 + 6 = 42 + 6 = 48 years, or would be punished for statutory rape of a 47 year old, incapable of consenting to sex with an old geezer like Hugh Hefner. He should be in jail for objectifying women in Playboy Magazine, anyway.

Our sex offender laws are not being enforced. Anyone that has illicit sex with rapes an under 18 y old minor in California needs to get tried and arrested. Yes, that includes minors too, in California two 17 year olds are not allowed to have sex with each other. That, finally, would allow us to imprison a few million men in California, and only a few women (because in couples, men tend to be the older one of the two).

He 84 y, she 24 y (60 years age difference)

Love really must be blind — at least, for 84-year-old Hugh Hefner’s new twenty-something fiancé. Playboy Playmate Crystal Harris, 24, told ‘Entertainment Tonight’ she hardly recognizes the 60-year age gap between herself and her husband-to-be.
‘I don’t notice the age difference with Hef at all,’ Harris said. ‘If anything, I have to keep up with him!’ Harris said Hef’s energy level often surpasses the blond bombshell, who was Playboy Playmate of the Month in December 2009 NY Daily News

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But the 83-year-old Playboy publisher took his tried-and-true May-December romance to a whole new level when he started dating then-19-year-old twins Kristina and Karissa Shannon, in 2008 [83-19= 64 years difference] The girls went on to star in ‘The Girls Next Door,’ but the media mogul and the Shannon twins parted ways in early 2010, so Hef could focus on his other blond girlfriend, 23-year-old Crystal Harris.

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Women Cougars marrying young men is sexual liberation

gal_hogan-linda-bollea-charley-hillWhen a repressed class violates old norms and robs the cradle, then this is sexual liberation, very different from horny perverted men marrying young women. Go girl, liberate yourself and all women from age restrictions!

When Madonna and her ten-years-younger husband, Guy Ritchie, called it quits in 2008, the eternally youthful material girl wasted no time rebounding with an even younger boy-toy. Madge started dating 23- year-old Brazilian model Jesus Luz in 2009, and the pair has been spotted all over the globe since.
Ick Factor: Jesus’ mother is 14 years younger than Madonna.
 NY Daily News

The Cougar queen

Hulk Hogan’s ex-wife, Linda Bollea, takes the cake as the cougar queen. Linda, 51, and her 21-year-old boyfriend Charley Hill, started dating when he was only 19! But the duo’s matching platinum ‘dos aren’t the freakiest thing about this relationship …
Ick Factor: The Hogan kids, Brooke and Nick, are 21 and 19, respectively. In fact, Charley is a former classmate of Brooke’s.

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Get a lawyer before courting: 34 precautions before risking sex with a woman

We mistakenly thought that a mere 27 precautions checklist would suffice before engaging in sex. We stand corrected.

Get a lawyer before courting

  1. Men need legal counsel to to take precautions not just before sex, but even before courting, kissing and even before conversing with a woman.
  2. We missed some essential precautions. 27 precautions are not enough, rather we arrive at a total of 34 precautions before talking, kissing, and sex.

Our original 27 precautions list has items such as

  • proof of consent,
  • proof that consent was never withdrawn for even 5 seconds,
  • proof that the woman was not in any way mentally incapacitated in ways that would invalidate consent,
  • proof of age for all women that appear to be under 35 years of age. Precautions against fake ID

A lawyer must be consulted before kissing, fondling, courting or even talking

"Excuse me. Miss. I would like to talk to you. But first,  can I please have your original ID so my detective can do a background check on you first?"“Excuse me. Miss. I would like to talk to you.

But before any conversation, may I please have your original ID for age and background checks?

Before getting any closer I will need a blood sample for sobriety and drug tests!”

Merely talking to a (potential) minor is dangerous.  Touching and kissing is a minefield

If she looks under 35, check ID to avoid minors

Complex laws “protect” adolescents below the “age of consent”. So the mandatory ID checks should be done not just for sex, but before touching and kissing. Thus you avoid “indecent acts with a minor” charges. ID checks are needed even before talking, because mere talking it could be considered “grooming” of a minor.  If a 17-year-old looks 30 years old, and if you met her with a fake ID in a over-21-years-bar you still get 15 years in jail. So for any girl looking under 35 years of age, ID needs to be checked for veracity before any further grooming and courting.

Most underage “rape” laws apply to indecent behavior with a minor. Explicit sex is not needed. Derek Logue was arrested in Alabama for making sexual contact (kissing) with an 11-year-old girl I had known while I was in college (around my 23rd birthday). I plead guilty to one count of 1st degree sexual abuse and received a six year sentence.

This could happen to you in less extreme cases, if you engage in necking with a 17 year old you mistook for a 22 year old.
Kissing can transmit diseases (see 30b). People (ahem, men) have been sued and ordered to pay US$ 1.5 Million for unproven potential transmission of sexually transmittable diseases through, well, sex. As these can also be transmitted by kissing, genital rubbing, oral genital contact etc. it is only obvious, that legal waivers should be signed before kissing.

Of course, dangerous diseases like swine flu, tuberculosis, conjunctivitis can be transmitted by talking, sneezing, handshakes. So maybe, soon a lawyer is needed before handshakes, talking or sneezing or sharing the same room in a movie theater.

Grooming If you are just friendly with a minor, we already have grooming laws on file. No attempt at any sexuality is needed, just you befriend a girl and you already are a suspect. Chatting with a potential minor on the internet is the way to get arrested.

We already listed 27 essential precautions before sex in this ground-breaking article

 

28) Stalking and harassment charge avoidance

Stalking and harassment laws may put you in jail for phoning, texting, or sending flowers

In Britain, if a women feels harassed twice, like by one love letter and once you try to pick her up after work, she can sue you for harassment.

We mistakenly thought that a mere 27 precautions checklist would suffice before engaging in sex. We stand corrected.

Get a lawyer before courting

  1. Men need legal counsel to to take precautions not just before sex, but even before courting, kissing and even before conversing with a woman.
  2. We missed some essential precautions. 27 precautions are not enough, rather we arrive at a total of 34 precautions before talking, kissing, and sex.

Our original 27 precautions list has items such as

  • proof of consent,
  • proof that consent was never withdrawn for even 5 seconds,
  • proof that the woman was not in any way mentally incapacitated in ways that would invalidate consent,
  • proof of age for all women that appear to be under 35 years of age. Precautions against fake ID

 

A lawyer must be consulted before kissing, fondling, courting or even talking 

"Excuse me. Miss. I would like to talk to you. But first,  can I please have your original ID so my detective can do a background check on you first?""Excuse me. Miss. I would like to talk to you.

But before any conversation, may I please have your original ID for age and background checks?

Before getting any closer I will need a blood sample for sobriety and drug tests!"

Merely talking to a (potential) minor is dangerous.  Touching and kissing is a minefield

If she looks under 35, check ID to avoid minors

Complex laws "protect" adolescents below the "age of consent". So the mandatory ID checks should be done not just for sex, but before touching and kissing. Thus you avoid "indecent acts with a minor" charges. ID checks are needed even before talking, because mere talking it could be considered "grooming" of a minor.  If a 17-year-old looks 30 years old, and if you met her with a fake ID in a over-21-years-bar you still get 15 years in jail. So for any girl looking under 35 years of age, ID needs to be checked for veracity before any further grooming and courting.

Most underage "rape" laws apply to indecent behavior with a minor. Explicit sex is not needed. Derek Logue was arrested in Alabama for making sexual contact (kissing) with an 11-year-old girl I had known while I was in college (around my 23rd birthday). I plead guilty to one count of 1st degree sexual abuse and received a six year sentence.

This could happen to you in less extreme cases, if you engage in necking with a 17 year old you mistook for a 22 year old.
Kissing can transmit diseases (see 30b). People (ahem, men) have been sued and ordered to pay US$ 1.5 Million for unproven potential transmission of sexually transmittable diseases through, well, sex. As these can also be transmitted by kissing, genital rubbing, oral genital contact etc. it is only obvious, that legal waivers should be signed before kissing.

Of course, dangerous diseases like swine flu, tuberculosis, conjunctivitis can be transmitted by talking, sneezing, handshakes. So maybe, soon a lawyer is needed before handshakes, talking or sneezing or sharing the same room in a movie theater.

Grooming If you are just friendly with a minor, we already have grooming laws on file. No attempt at any sexuality is needed, just you befriend a girl and you already are a suspect. Chatting with a potential minor on the internet is the way to get arrested.

We already listed 27 essential precautions before sex in this ground-breaking article

 

28) Stalking and harassment charge avoidance

Stalking and harassment laws may put you in jail for phoning, texting, or sending flowers

In Britain, if a women feels harassed twice, like by one love letter and once you try to pick her up after work, she can sue you for harassment.

We mistakenly thought that a mere 27 precautions checklist would suffice before engaging in sex. We stand corrected.

Get a lawyer before courting

  1. Men need legal counsel to to take precautions not just before sex, but even before courting, kissing and even before conversing with a woman.
  2. We missed some essential precautions. 27 precautions are not enough, rather we arrive at a total of 34 precautions before talking, kissing, and sex.

Our original 27 precautions list has items such as

  • proof of consent,
  • proof that consent was never withdrawn for even 5 seconds,
  • proof that the woman was not in any way mentally incapacitated in ways that would invalidate consent,
  • proof of age for all women that appear to be under 35 years of age. Precautions against fake ID

 

A lawyer must be consulted before kissing, fondling, courting or even talking 

"Excuse me. Miss. I would like to talk to you. But first,  can I please have your original ID so my detective can do a background check on you first?""Excuse me. Miss. I would like to talk to you.

But before any conversation, may I please have your original ID for age and background checks?

Before getting any closer I will need a blood sample for sobriety and drug tests!"

Merely talking to a (potential) minor is dangerous.  Touching and kissing is a minefield

If she looks under 35, check ID to avoid minors

Complex laws "protect" adolescents below the "age of consent". So the mandatory ID checks should be done not just for sex, but before touching and kissing. Thus you avoid "indecent acts with a minor" charges. ID checks are needed even before talking, because mere talking it could be considered "grooming" of a minor.  If a 17-year-old looks 30 years old, and if you met her with a fake ID in a over-21-years-bar you still get 15 years in jail. So for any girl looking under 35 years of age, ID needs to be checked for veracity before any further grooming and courting.

Most underage "rape" laws apply to indecent behavior with a minor. Explicit sex is not needed. Derek Logue was arrested in Alabama for making sexual contact (kissing) with an 11-year-old girl I had known while I was in college (around my 23rd birthday). I plead guilty to one count of 1st degree sexual abuse and received a six year sentence.

This could happen to you in less extreme cases, if you engage in necking with a 17 year old you mistook for a 22 year old.
Kissing can transmit diseases (see 30b). People (ahem, men) have been sued and ordered to pay US$ 1.5 Million for unproven potential transmission of sexually transmittable diseases through, well, sex. As these can also be transmitted by kissing, genital rubbing, oral genital contact etc. it is only obvious, that legal waivers should be signed before kissing.

Of course, dangerous diseases like swine flu, tuberculosis, conjunctivitis can be transmitted by talking, sneezing, handshakes. So maybe, soon a lawyer is needed before handshakes, talking or sneezing or sharing the same room in a movie theater.

Grooming If you are just friendly with a minor, we already have grooming laws on file. No attempt at any sexuality is needed, just you befriend a girl and you already are a suspect. Chatting with a potential minor on the internet is the way to get arrested.

We already listed 27 essential precautions before sex in this ground-breaking article

 

28) Stalking and harassment charge avoidance

Stalking and harassment laws may put you in jail for phoning, texting, or sending flowers

In Britain, if a women feels harassed twice, like by one love letter and once you try to pick her up after work, she can sue you for harassment.

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