Tag: Human Rights

George Zimmermann’s defense wins right to Trayvon Martin’s school records and social network data

George Zimmermann killed an "unarmed teenager", we hear in the media. George Zimmermann had a broken nose, serious gashes on the back of his head, from being banged onto concrete. He was so secure, so honest, that he had waived his right to a lawyer and told the complete story in violation of the rule "Never speak to police". His story of self defense was totally coherent, so police let him go. A concerted action by black race activists, with the involvement of president Obama forced the case to be re-opened and had Zimmermann imprisoned and later freed on bail. The racist New Black Panthers put up a bounty on Zimmermann’s head, with impunity. Zimmermann has been in hiding and fleeing vigilantes ever since.

Now the judge permitted Zimmermann’s defense to access Trayvon’s school records and social media records. The defense will try to show that Trayvon is not the 12 year old innocent little kid as falsely depicted in the media but rather a gang-signal flashing, drug using football player with a history of violence and suspicion of burglary, on long school suspension.  This is necessary to support Zimmermann’s contention that Trayvon Martin had followed him, punched him and that "unarmed" Trayvon Martin has tried to kill Zimmermann by punching and showing Zimmermann’s head into a concrete slab.

 

Here is the very complete story with original evidence, we will comment below.

Here is how the events unfolded as told through recordings, video, and police documents that are evidence in Zimmerman’s second-degree murder case.

 

George Zimmerman judge OKs question: Who was the real Trayvon Martin?

The new judge in George Zimmerman’s second-degree murder trial allowed defense attorneys to subpoena social media networks and peruse Trayvon Martin’s school records to determine whether the slain teen had a violent past.

And while the race issue continues to define the case more broadly, it became clear this week that the tension in the case has come to revolve around whether Trayvon’s personality and whether the boy’s actions – not his race or his hoodie, which in part drew Zimmerman’s attention on the night of the shooting – played a role in the tragedy.

Trayvon had been on a 10-day suspension from his high school when he was killed. The suspension came after school officials found an empty marijuana baggie on him. An eyewitness to the shooting has also testified that Trayvon was straddling Zimmerman, punching him “MMA-style” in the moments before he was shot.

The press: Trayvon about 4 years younger, Zimmermann in prison garb

The true pictures? Trayvon with gang signals, self declared "NO LIMIT NIGGA" on Twitter?

Trayvon Martin & George Zimmermann: was it self defense? We demonstrated manipulative press photos and totally misleading selective 911 excerpts.

 

The DC has identified a second Twitter handle associated with Trayvon Martin. Writing under the name “T33ZY TAUGHT M3” in December, Martin tweeted: “Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2 u!”

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Tony Nicklinson condemned to life of torture – by British High Court

Tony Nicklinson is a law abiding man who has done no wrong. After a stroke, his life became “pure torture”. He is locked into his body, fully lucid, unable to move anything but his eyes and part of his face, totally dependent on others to take care of him.

Human Rights obsess with the rights of criminals. It is of great concern if a murderous felon takes 5 minutes to die, suffers for 5 minutes when put to death. But if a honest, law abiding man is forced to a few decades of torture, of life and suffering against his will,  that is nobody’s concern. No animal would ever be forced or allowed to suffer in such cruel inhumane ways.

Inducing such a “locked-in syndrome” in a murderer, for 30 years, would be a much harsher punishment then swift death penalty with 2 minute death. It would be worse then 30 years in a well kept orderly prison. Putting a high cost on society and family to support the involuntary suffering is even more cruel, as cruel as medieval inquisition’s practice to bill the cost of torture to the victim and his family.

Robert Kurzban  describes how Human Society and religion have a tendency to interfere in other people’s life. With moral indignation! Philosopher *Peter Singer devotes most of his work to analyzing such life and death situations.

Thank God, there is Dignitas in Switzerland, If Tony Nicklinson has the money, if he has friendly helpers, he can travel to faraway Switzerland to end his miserable life. Hopefully those who help him on his trip will not be punished when they return to England.

The person who wishes to die meets several Dignitas personnel, in addition to an independent doctor, for a private consultation. The independent doctor assesses the evidence provided by the patient and is met on two separate occasions, with a time gap between each of the consultations.[2] Legally admissible proof that the person wishes to die is also created, i.e. a signed affidavit, countersigned by independent witnesses. In cases where a person is physically unable to sign a document, a short video film of the person is made in which they are asked to confirm their identity, that they wish to die, and that their decision is made of their own free will, without any form of coercion. Dignitas

Human-Stupidity Analysis

Tony-Nicklinson-right-to-dieThe court is formally right: it is up to lawmakers to decide on changing the laws.

Declaring the law unconstitutional would be a way out of the legal dilemma. It is sad how courts and society force people to suffer a torturous life.

We have written a about the right to die. As a Libertarian, I wish intelligent adult people could decide their own fate.

Tony Nicklinson is a law abiding man who has done no wrong. After a stroke, his life became “pure torture”. He is locked into his body, fully lucid, unable to move anything but his eyes and part of his face, totally dependent on others to take care of him.

Human Rights obsess with the rights of criminals. It is of great concern if a murderous felon takes 5 minutes to die, suffers for 5 minutes when put to death. But if a honest, law abiding man is forced to a few decades of torture, of life and suffering against his will,  that is nobody’s concern. No animal would ever be forced or allowed to suffer in such cruel inhumane ways.

Inducing such a “locked-in syndrome” in a murderer, for 30 years, would be a much harsher punishment then swift death penalty with 2 minute death. It would be worse then 30 years in a well kept orderly prison. Putting a high cost on society and family to support the involuntary suffering is even more cruel, as cruel as medieval inquisition’s practice to bill the cost of torture to the victim and his family.

Robert Kurzban  describes how Human Society and religion have a tendency to interfere in other people’s life. With moral indignation! Philosopher *Peter Singer devotes most of his work to analyzing such life and death situations.

Thank God, there is Dignitas in Switzerland, If Tony Nicklinson has the money, if he has friendly helpers, he can travel to faraway Switzerland to end his miserable life. Hopefully those who help him on his trip will not be punished when they return to England.

The person who wishes to die meets several Dignitas personnel, in addition to an independent doctor, for a private consultation. The independent doctor assesses the evidence provided by the patient and is met on two separate occasions, with a time gap between each of the consultations.[2] Legally admissible proof that the person wishes to die is also created, i.e. a signed affidavit, countersigned by independent witnesses. In cases where a person is physically unable to sign a document, a short video film of the person is made in which they are asked to confirm their identity, that they wish to die, and that their decision is made of their own free will, without any form of coercion. Dignitas 

Human-Stupidity Analysis

Tony-Nicklinson-right-to-dieThe court is formally right: it is up to lawmakers to decide on changing the laws.

Declaring the law unconstitutional would be a way out of the legal dilemma. It is sad how courts and society force people to suffer a torturous life.

We have written a about the right to die. As a Libertarian, I wish intelligent adult people could decide their own fate.

Tony Nicklinson is a law abiding man who has done no wrong. After a stroke, his life became “pure torture”. He is locked into his body, fully lucid, unable to move anything but his eyes and part of his face, totally dependent on others to take care of him.

Human Rights obsess with the rights of criminals. It is of great concern if a murderous felon takes 5 minutes to die, suffers for 5 minutes when put to death. But if a honest, law abiding man is forced to a few decades of torture, of life and suffering against his will,  that is nobody’s concern. No animal would ever be forced or allowed to suffer in such cruel inhumane ways.

Inducing such a “locked-in syndrome” in a murderer, for 30 years, would be a much harsher punishment then swift death penalty with 2 minute death. It would be worse then 30 years in a well kept orderly prison. Putting a high cost on society and family to support the involuntary suffering is even more cruel, as cruel as medieval inquisition’s practice to bill the cost of torture to the victim and his family.

Robert Kurzban  describes how Human Society and religion have a tendency to interfere in other people’s life. With moral indignation! Philosopher *Peter Singer devotes most of his work to analyzing such life and death situations.

Thank God, there is Dignitas in Switzerland, If Tony Nicklinson has the money, if he has friendly helpers, he can travel to faraway Switzerland to end his miserable life. Hopefully those who help him on his trip will not be punished when they return to England.

The person who wishes to die meets several Dignitas personnel, in addition to an independent doctor, for a private consultation. The independent doctor assesses the evidence provided by the patient and is met on two separate occasions, with a time gap between each of the consultations.[2] Legally admissible proof that the person wishes to die is also created, i.e. a signed affidavit, countersigned by independent witnesses. In cases where a person is physically unable to sign a document, a short video film of the person is made in which they are asked to confirm their identity, that they wish to die, and that their decision is made of their own free will, without any form of coercion. Dignitas 

Human-Stupidity Analysis

Tony-Nicklinson-right-to-dieThe court is formally right: it is up to lawmakers to decide on changing the laws.

Declaring the law unconstitutional would be a way out of the legal dilemma. It is sad how courts and society force people to suffer a torturous life.

We have written a about the right to die. As a Libertarian, I wish intelligent adult people could decide their own fate.

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72% of blacks, 31% non-blacks believe George Zimmermann is guilty(Gallup). Why the racial differences?

Blacks are much more likely than nonblacks to have an opinion about Zimmerman’s guilt. Overall, 72% of blacks say Zimmerman is definitely or probably guilty of a crime; 1% say he is not. Nonblacks also say Zimmerman is guilty, by 32% to 7%, but well over half of nonblacks say Zimmerman’s guilt is unclear from the available information.

Blacks are more certain about their opinions than are nonblacks. Blacks who say Zimmerman is guilty of a crime are significantly more likely to say he is definitely guilty than probably guilty, while nonblacks tilt more toward the "probably guilty" choice.

Additionally, 72% of blacks say racial bias was a major factor in the events that led up to the shooting death of Martin, with another 13% saying it was a minor factor. Nonblacks, on the other hand, are significantly less certain, with 31% saying racial bias was a major factor, 26% saying it was a minor factor, and 25% saying it was not a factor at all Gallup

Human-Stupidity Analysis: different attitudes by race (that doesn’t exist)

george-zimmermannAmazing how white and black Americans have totally different perception. The truth can only be one. And the same evidence is known to all. Are racist whites biased and unjustly anti-Black?

Or maybe Blacks (and Liberals) have been taught that Blacks are always victims and never responsible for any negative fate. Not for lower educational and financial attainment of Blacs, their higher criminality. There always is a white repressor to blame. "I am misbehaving and having bad school results because there was slavery in 1860". If it is possible to distort the scientific race and iq discussion, how much easier is it to get a distorted view of a criminal case. As a matter of fact, Whites hide and distort black criminal tendencies. So, if anything, Whites already are biased in favor of Blacks. Add to this the proven lower IQ of Blacks, which makes it more difficult to understand complex issues and see through Al Sharpton’s manipulations.

Of course, media manipulation, like selective editing of the 911 call to make Zimmermann look racist, using 4 year old photos of Trayvon when he was 12 and a mug shot of Zimmermann when he weight 50(?) lbs. more serves to get people up in arms against Zimmermann. To top it off,  spanish speaking and Peruvian Latino race Zimmermann is called a member of the evil white race.

Liberals and the biased manipulative press reports probably account for the 31% of non-blacks that believe Zimmermann is guilty. Gallup should also have reported if these 31% consist largely of people who don’t follow the news and thus are the less informed.

And yes, Human-Stupidity already mentioned valid issues on both sides: the cover-up of criminal thuggery of a son of a Sanford policeman, as well as media neglect of black on white assaults in that same city in the same time period.

We are just mentioning the tip of the iceberg, much more thorough analysis is needed.  Why do the races (which allegedly are socially constructed and don’t exist) have such clearly different opinion in the Trayvon Martin – George Zimmermann case, as in the OJ Simpson and Rodney King case.

In the Rodney King case we can see the tendency to assign human rights protection to a heavily drugged felon who endangered people in a reckless car chase and violently fought of police. In the Trayvon Martin case Human-Stupidity keeps pointing out that it is taken for granted that a black man can punch anyone for slight provocation such as following at a distance.

U.S. public opinion about the Trayvon Martin case in Florida reflects the same type of racial divide found in 1995 surveys asking about the murder trial of O.J. Simpson in Los Angeles. In one Gallup poll conducted Oct. 5-7, 1995, for example, 78% of blacks said the jury that found Simpson not guilty of murder made the right decision, while only 42% of whites agreed.

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Trayvon Martin & George Zimmermann: was it self defense?

Did Zimmerman kill Martin in self-defense?  There are some indications that he may not have, but others that he may have.  So I ask myself what makes sense.  I doubt Zimmerman is just a crazy loon who likes killing people, so I think it’s most likely that Martin, a 6’2″ or 6’3″ football player, was beating his old, out of shape ass, and that’s why he shot him.  Blurry video won’t discount this.  I’m basically making the same judgment I did with the DSK case.  Did it make any sense that DSK would rape that slut?  Hell no!  So it didn’t happen. 

There is one major difference: We knew that Dominique Strauss-Kahn is a highly respectable, intelligent, successful man that had his act together and does not act irresponsibly and irrationally.

We don’t know that much about George Zimmermann. He might be a bit loony or out of control. But, the main suspicion is that Zimmermann might have “irritated” Trayvon Martin which prompted Trayvon Martin to righteously attack who Martin perceived as a racist.

Which murderer would first call police, then hunt down and shoot an innocent boy, and, in spite of being an armed aggressor, get seriously maimed, nose broken, back of head banged onto concrete slabs.

Press media’s lies, deceit about George Zimmermann trial

George Zimmermann's head 2 minutes after the killing
Self Defense? George Zimmermann’s head 2 minutes after the killing, indicating need for Self Defense

See my more recent posts on George Zimmermann. (click on link)

Omitted evidence

Trayvon Martin’s school record of multiple 10 day suspensions for probably criminal behavior, possession of burglary tools and jewelry was not elucidated.11Nor his text messages about fighting

Nor have we seen any attempt to discuss the time line, to explain how Trayvon Martin got killed at a location he had passed hundreds of seconds earlier. Trayvon Martin had plenty of time to go home, but he chose not to. Instead he and George Zimmerman had their deadly encounter near Zimmerman’s car, where they had been hundreds of seconds earlier. 22 23 23 [wikipedia timeline]

Proponents of political correctness distort the truth. We must not defend racial profiling nor mention a long list of black criminality which is a multiple of white violent criminality. IN a similar case, witnesses confirmed that Black youth DeAndre Felton was killed in clear self defense.

 

We don’t know for sure, cannot jump to definite conclusion (I wrote in 2012. Now in July 2013 we actually can be pretty sure. In a show trial, the only “evidence” against George Zimmerman stem from deposition of Trayvon Martin’s parents (who reversed themselves after first declaring that the voice screaming for help was NOT their son) and Trayvon Martin’s girl friend who perjured herself several times.
And Trayvon Martin’s criminal behavior in school was not raised in court.

George-Zimmerman-tie22-300x187So I keep warning. We can not be so sure of George Zimmermann’s innocence.  But we can be sure of the press and the black opinion makers being biased and too quick to condemn Zimmermann and to call for his lynching (New Black Panthers)

Now I could be wrong, maybe Zimmerman instigated things, but I doubt he HIT Martin first, so Zimmerman isn’t totally to blame either way.  Also note that there’s a tinge of anti-gun rhetoric in all this, they want to take away our right to bear arms and defend ourselves, which is an essential right.

Source: all quotes from an author that wants to be unnamed

 

Presumptive right to violent “retaliation” in case racial profiling or racist slurs

There is a possibility that Zimmermann instigated the fight, by being a bit harsh or unfriendly. By the usual narrative that gives a black boy the right to whoop his white (?) or Hispanic ass. Whereupon Zimmermann would have to defend himself.

Now the second question is, did Zimmerman target Martin because he was black?  And this answer is clearly no.  The media simply wishes to paint the narrative that a “white” (Zimmerman is actually Hispanic and Jewish, not of the supposedly evil Caucasian group) killed a poor innocent black child who in the picture in the media looks 12 years old –

Manipulative use of photos to manipulate public opinion 

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Yes, the photo manipulation is eerie. Can’t the media find any other photos then Trayvon Martin when he is 14 (or actually you can find slide shows with photos where he is 5, or where he carries 2 year old babies). What about a photo from 2012 or 2011? How come the media will not publish any of these? And why does it show mug shots of George Zimmermann? And call him white, even though in the US “Hispanic” is a racial term, a socially defined “race”. Isn’t race supposed to be socially constructed anyway?

actually he was a 17 year old 6’2″+ football player who clearly had some muscle strength, wore a thug disguise (hoodie etc.) in a neighborhood that had been repeatedly robbed, probably was a thief and talked like a thug, hell his pictures were even doctored to make him look more innocent and angelic.

Right. How old is this boy? 13? 12? Sure not 17 years old!? Why do they keep showing these photos below? and only these  photos below? Were above photos used, the impression would be quite different.

Now there still are rumors that some or all above Trayvon photos are fake. Which would leave open the question: Can nobody in the world, even his own family, locate any photos of Trayvon Martin from the last 3 years? Or are they all thuggish so they hide them?

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How come Trayvon could not out-run Zimmermann?

And how come that tall trained football player could not outrun the fat out of shape older Hispanic? So he was cornered and had to whoop him? or got attacked by a law abiding neighborhood citizen who was fast enough to outrun and catch the football player. Why could Trayvon not just have run home? Is this gated community so huge that he could not run home quick enough?

There always is this unspoken assumption that Trayvon Martin has the right to physically attack and whoop George Zimmermann just for the sin of him being a racist, for the sin of racial profiling.

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Trayvon Martin, racial profiling, political correctness

Racial profiling 1  2 3 is illegal, in spite of clear proof that certain races commit multiple times more violent crime. But gender profiling is written into law (Violence against women act) in spite of proof that women resort to domestic violence just as much as men.

Stereotyping Certain Races as Having a Greater Propensity to Commit Crimes Is Absolutely Prohibited. Some have argued that overall discrepancies in crime rates among racial groups could justify using race as a factor in general traffic enforcement activities and would produce a greater number of arrests for non-traffic offenses (e.g., narcotics trafficking). We emphatically reject this view. It is patently unacceptable and thus prohibited under this guidance for federal law enforcement officers to engage in racial profiling.  4

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travonmartin8_thumbOf course, ignoring common sense and inconvertible crime statistics are an impediment to police work. It violates the human rights of law abiding citizens by exposing them to more crime. And violates the human rights of old white ladies that needlessly get searched so police don’t look racially biased when searching young Arab or black men.

On the bright side, a German court recently acknowledged the right of police to search suspects by skin color, when on trains usually used by illegal immigrants.

Statistically, the black man with skittles and hoodie below has a 10-100 time greater chance of being a violent criminal then our two protesters above and aside. 6 

That suspicion, of course, would not warrant shooting a black man for his  skin color. But it might be justified to be more careful and to check him out. Even the politically correct protesters and even honest law abiding blacks would change to the other side of the street, were they to encounter a group of such black people. trayvonmartin11_thumb

Generations of blacks have now been told they are victims, whites are evil and blacks are entitled to free money, housing and everything else when very few blacks alive today have ever faced systematic discrimination. If they have faced discrimination it is because responsible blacks are grouped with the great many blacks in America that cause such tremendous crime and problems.

 If Whites are held responsible for actions committed by members of my race centuries ago [slavery], shouldn’t it be fair for law abiding Blacks to be held responsible for the black thugs and criminals? It’s simple logic but not so easy under the laws of political correctness.

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Trayvon Martin, black rage and political correctness

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Trayvon Martin was killed by neighborhood watch activist George Zimmermann. Police accepted Zimmermann’s claim of self defense. Now the political correctness crowd and the Black Rights movement latched on to the case and demand George Zimmermann’s arrest and conviction.  Unopposed and unpunished, the New Black Panther organisation has offered a bounty to hunt down Zimmermann for unnamed purposes. And there is an unspoken assumption that Trayvon would be justified to physically attack Zimmermann had he used any racial slur.

Was it Self Defense or not?

If Trayvon Martin seriously attacked George Zimmermann, then it was self defense. If Zimmermann approached and attacked Trayvon Martin, then it was not self defense.

We can not give the final answer to this question. In a few weeks we hopefully have forensic analysis of the 911 calls, of the Trayvon Martin’s body (to see if he has signs of having hit Zimmermann) and of Zimmermann’s injuries (if this proof has not been lost due to lack of initial police investigation), and of witness statements.

Initially we were quite convinced by Trayvon Martin FAQ that Trayvon did seriously attack Zimmermann. Also note Zimmermann made 40 police reports already, without ever shooting anyone.

But now a police video shows Zimmermann with no blood or visible injury.  Well, we hope (for Zimmermann’s sake) that there is a good explanation, that he got his wounds expertly treated before the video. We could say that if Zimmermann embellished the beating story, that still does not mean that he was not viciously attacked. Like fanatic feminists: "Yes Nafissatou Diallo told dozens of lies about the alleged rape, other rapes, immigration. This does not mean that she wasn’t raped by Dominque Strauss-Kahn"). But it would seriously undermine George Zimmermann’s credibility. If he is an over-zealous racist vigilante,  who shoots an innocent boy, let him get punished.

A few Pro-Trayvon press reports:

Maybe they both were no good? But, once more, we have no investment in either position. We want the TRUTH to be found.

Manipulative press reports due to political correctness?

We see elements of manipulation: seemingly 17 year old Trayvon Martin has only 3 year old photos where he looks like an inoffensive boy, while Zimmermann seems only to have a criminally looking mug shot. And why does no-one clarify Trayvon’s school suspensions (I have never been suspended in school. Have you?).

Justifying black violence

If Zimmermann followed Trayvon, if he, God beware even used the N word, then most people would take it for granted that Trayvon Martin had the right to whoop Zimmermann.

Using the N word is valid reason for serious beating (Video)

It is interesting, the black (?) commentators write that the white guy attacked with a broken bottle. I clearly see him as defensive in the video, trying to keep the black aggressors away from him and only breaking the bottle after being attacked by multiple attackers.

Typically, black violence is seen as justified against the historic white oppressor. (See the Rodney King case). Similarly, women that kill  2 3 4 or mutilate sleeping husbands are excused as acting in self defense, as victims of alleged violence. 

This rage is fed by political correctness ideology. Blacks are told that the reason for all black hardship lies in discrimination by the evil white man. This feeds the rage against the oppressor. If Black poverty and other disadvantages were attributed to their own behavior, their own lower iq and lower impulse control, they would not feel justified to lash back. The same hate is created in women when they believe the pay gap is due to patriarchal oppression and not to female choice, lower work hours, less risk.

Bounty to capture Zimmermann!? To lynch him?

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Márcio Costa accuses pretty funk rapper politician wife Verônica Costa of 20 hours of torture. No domestic violence arrest was made.

 

Verônica Costa, city councilwomen and famous funk rapper in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil,  was accused by her husband Márcio Costa to have ordered her brother and step father to savagely torture him for 20 hours with beatings and acid. He claims they tied his arms and legs with chains, beat him, doused him in kerosene or gasoline and threatened to set him ablaze. As proof he has his serious injuries, second and third degree burns. Police found gasoline in their home, an item that most people would not be possessing routinely in their home. 

Torture victim in hospital Márcio Costa Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, husband of funk rapper Verônica da Costa

There could be potential doubts about the accuser’s truthfulness. Though it would be the first time of a victim inflicting serious injury upon himself in order to make false accusations.

Brazilian men accused of domestic violence get arrested and jailed without bail for accusations of merely shoving or lightly slapping a woman. (google "lei Maria da Penha") 

Detail of severe burns on the tortured husband's legs

Márcio Costa claims that, during the torture session, his wife asked him about marital infidelity, asking for the name of his alleged lover. She also kissed him in the midst of the torture.

The alleged domestic violence torturer was not arrested, rather she is counter-accusing her husband of being a violent drug addict. She claims he arrived home with all the injuries.  Domestic violence is an unbailable crime.

Husband claims to have escaped when he was left with only one relative guarding him, he claims they were planning to kill him. Immediately after his escape he already told a neighbor about the torture. Women can get men arrested even if they tell the story months after the alleged facts.

In addition, torture is a special crime with specially severe punishment in Brazil.

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More misandry from Brazil

The Brazilian congress just approved a law that prohibits bodily searches of women. No word about men.

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Nato navies no match for Somali Pirates (aided by human-rights laws)

Somali Pirates just killed 4 hostages.

The entire world’s navies cannot win against a rag-tag "navy" of 3rd world bandits? At sea, where without the typical guerrilla war problems. The bandits cannot hide among the masses. Still they are almost safe.   Human rights sensitivities protect them.

As human-stupidity has noted before, Somali pirates rewarded with asylum in Europe.   Often, Somali Pirates are just released. If they drowned their weapons, and no positive proof can be found, then obvious pirates are just sent home to come back and try again next week We don’t have enough proof to convict in a far away court.

Our human rights laws were not made for Somali pirates. Our human rights laws are well intended, but often ineffective. They often cost us not only money, but cost victimization of innocent upstanding citizens. Of course the cost is exorbitant. Entire navies are there to arrest them. Free flights to Europe. free defense lawyers, and free housing for 5 years in jail. Asylum, welfare, and family immigration to Europe later on. And we all pay in higher merchandise cost for the vastly increased shipping insurance rates.

No wonder many people think that old fashioned methods like summary execution would be much more appropriate methods to nip piracy in the bud. The same way as Guantanamo’s human rights violations probably are saving lives and stemming the terrorist tide.

Late action is another problem. The problem has grown, it is very late. The enemy has become rich and powerful. Now the pirates have good weapons, equipment, good logistics. Similar things have happened in the drug war and with the spam problem. We created the monsters ourselves. Had we acted forcefully beginning, there would be no spam problem. Now the top spammers make millions a month, and enlist the worlds best hackers to aid them.

Admiral MARK FOX (Commander, U.S. 5th Fleet): At 8 o’clock this morning local time, a rocket-propelled grenade was fired from the Quest, by the pirates, towards the Starrett. Immediately thereafter, gunfire also erupted inside the cabin of the Quest.

Several pirates appeared on deck and moved up to the bow with their hands in the air in surrender.

LANGFITT: When U.S. Special Forces boarded the yacht, they said they found the Adams and two fellow American sailors dead or dying. The other sailors were identified as Phyllis Macay and Bob Riggle, both of Seattle, Washington.

Admiral Fox also said they found two pirates who had already been killed. He emphasized that U.S. Special Forces did not shoot those pirates, and had not tried to launch a rescue.

Officials: Somali Pirates Kill 4 American Hostages|NPR

Somalische Piraten immer brutaler|Der Spiegel (in German, with very intelligent comments)

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