Age of Consent

Here are 10 key points/memes to memorize and spread as far and widely as possible regarding the age of consent, and in particular, the validity of discussion of the age of consent, both within and outside the men’s rights movement :

1 / If the discussion of sex laws had always been taboo/forbidden, then homosexuality would still be illegal. Homosexuality is illegal in many countries, and being criminalized in several others. If we disallow discussion of (changing) sex laws in the West, we will be in a poor position to prevent similar attempts to suppress even discussion of the rights of homosexuals in countries where homosexuality is illegal. We criticize Russia for making it illegal to ‘promote’ homosexuality to children, yet those same ‘liberal’ progressives want to make it illegal to ‘promote’ (i.e discuss rationally) lowering the age of consent or to criticize any laws ostensibly protecting children. If discussing ‘child protection’ laws had always been off limits, Alan Turing would still be considered a child abusing pervert (he had illegal sex with a boy under the age of majority at the time).


Reprinted with the kind permission of the Antifeminist

This post fits into the Thilo Sarrazin discussion, because it deals with taboo speech that makes it impossible to engage in rational discussion and scientific search for truth. I recommend reading my Sarrazin reviews, especially the ones still due to be published. See also Robert Kurzban.

It of course fits into our Human-Stupidity age of consent and teenage sexuality discussions.


2(and relating to 1)/ The age of consent in the UK was set at 16 (raised from 12/13) in a backward Victorian criminal amendment act (1885) that also criminalized homosexuality, punishable by death. The same law that Alan Turing was prosecuted under. Ironically, it is now effectively taboo to criticize one half of that backward 1885 bill (the age of consent of 16) and yet taboo, and even illegal, to support the other half of that same backward Victorian bill (the criminalization of homosexuality).

3/ The age of consent was set at 16 by puritanical feminists (suffragettes) in the UK, and that same bill (and age of 16) was a model for similar rises in the age of consent in the USA and elsewhere (also lobbied for by feminists/suffragettes). This is an important point to stress within the context of men’s rights.

 

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Gorgeous 24 year old Meredith Powell rapes children, age 15-17, who begged to be raped

Children Adolescent boys traumatized by sex laws. Meredith Powell, a drop dead gorgeous, bubbly, friendly, young teacher flirted, kissed, gave blow jobs and maybe even more. Meredith Powell is every boy’s wet dream.

Meredith Powell, child rapist sexual predator

Legal System destroys the lives of boys and Meredith Powell

An anonymous person, deluded by feminist and religious conservative sex laws, or just jealous, turned their secret public. Now the young men’s private lives are under world wide scrutiny. They feel the guilt of being the cause of their teacher’s arrest.

Powell, who has taught in the Tacoma Public Schools district since 2012, was busted after district officials received an anonymous tip. They forwarded the tip to local police.

Police say the trysts began after a drunken Powell responded to a text from a former student one night, reports The News Tribune. The student told Powell he was “turned on thinking about her.”

The student took the initiative to be "raped". Yes, he wanted to be "raped" and be "traumatized"

She replied that “he was hot, too.”

That was unwise. But was it terribly traumatizing for the student? See [sexual predator] Meredith Powell Photos 

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No Sex Please, we’re Japanese: virtual girlfriends and the closing of maternity wards and elementary schools

Japan is closing maternity wards and elementary schools. Not many children get born. Society is aging quickly.

Video:

  • @14 minutes: fewer Japanese marry. Only 2% of children born out of wedlock. Only 27% of couples have sex every week.
  • @15 minutes: Don’t miss the men with the virtual girl friends. One of them is married and hides the girl friend from his wife. He is not sure which of the two he would choose: wife or computer program.

 

In the video, Japanese men keep repeating that a virtual girl friend is much nicer. The virtual girl friends are usually are teenage age, and the man plays the role of a teenager, too. Virtual girl friends are not messy, no trouble. Why bother with a real woman.

Though, there is a certain desire for a real woman.

  • @32 minutes: Amazing Japanese Pompom dancers, minimum age requirement: 55 years, oldest is 81. They dance nicely enough to look like teenage cheer leaders, when seen from a distance.
  • @40: 20% of Japanese prisoners are over 65 years old. 50% of them reoffend.
  • @45: 70% of Japanese women drop out of the work force after they get children. With a lack of work force, this is considered a calamity.
  • @40 minutes: immigration as the solution?

 

 

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Help! My 18 year old girl friend has raped me 298 times

"Please stop", he begged her. "I already came, I am tired, I need to sleep". To no avail. 19 year old Maria (name has been changed) will not take no for an answer. She straddles his face, pushes her pussy onto his mouth, taking his breath away: " Make me come!"  she demands of the groggy, sleepy, half drunk Paul (name has been changed). After one screaming orgasm, she puts a condom on his member and rides herself, cowgirl style, to another orgasm, over Paul’s protests.

During the first 290 rapes (or "sexual assaults" , in some jurisdictions) Paul did not know he was a victim of rape, or felony sexual assault. That the constant barrage of sexual assaults by a gorgeous 19 year old blonde was deeply traumatizing for him. and would scar him for life. He was unaware that he was a date rape or marital rape survivor.

He already knew that feminists had re-defined rape.  That consent could be withdrawn at any moment. That "No means No". That a man got convicted for 5 second *rape because he stopped only 5 seconds after the hitherto consenting girl said "stop".

Still Paul was unaware that he was a rape victim. He thought that rape hysteria was a feminist ruse.

Then he started reading avoiceformen and r/mensrights. The leading men’s rights web sites. There he found out that MRA actually agree with most of the feminist rape hysteria,  as long as pretty 25 year old female cheer leaders also get punished [4] for having sex with  220 pound 17 year old adolescent football player hunk victims.  

He read how boys and men are frequent rape victims:  Boys raped more often than girls. Eivind Berge The Antifeminist

Paul is still getting raped almost daily, but now he is aware that he is a victim of a terrible crime. Paul is asking for your advice:

  1. Is he actually getting raped or sexually assaulted?
  2. Is he traumatized for life
  3. Should he go to police and press charges against his abuser?
  4. Will he be believed? You know, women never lie about rape. But will they think men lie about rape (sexual assault).
  5. Should he record the sex act and his protests, to have PROOF of the vile crime he suffers from?
  6. Should he just enjoy the sex and then, a few years later, file charges of rape, like many women do nowadays? Or 40 years later, like in the Saville case
  7. He actually likes the sex in the morning. It is rape only in the evening. If she goes to prison for many years, he will miss it.  (this is not a joke; there was a case where a woman pressed rape charges. Among 30 sex acts, only #25 and #18 were rapes, the others, she confided, were consensual)

Please answer the questions  in the comments below

 

Further comments and questions

  1. Be aware, if the "victim" was a woman, the male "rapist" would be convicted, no doubt.
  2. Should MRA (men’s rights activists) be only concerned to make sure that a woman "rapist" would be treated with equal rigor. Or should MRA actually be concerned to keep men out of prison for travesties like 32-year-old man’s sex with 17-year-old was legal… but pictures of it cost him 8 years in prison. Note too that feminists are seriously concerned with keeping female husband assassins out of prison and successfully do so: How to Kill your Husband! A Tutorial. (Susan Falls’ Licence to Kill) .
  3. According to Human-Stupidity’s research, most sexually active heterosexual men suffered "rape" episodes like the above. Remember: once you say now, even in the slightest way, consensual sex becomes RAPE: Consensual sex becomes rape as soon as woman says "I need to go home", says California Supreme Court..
  4. Please report if you were victim or perpetrator of such rape, or if this never happened in your life.
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Court rules that 32-year-old man’s sex with 17-year-old was legal… but pictures of it cost him 8 years in prison

Court rules that 32-year-old man’s sex with 17-year-old was legal… but pictures of it were not

 

Although a man who was 32 wasn’t breaking the law by having sex with a 17-year-old girl in 2008, he was by photographing the act, the Illinois Supreme Court ruled Thursday.

Marshall Hollins was convicted in Stephenson County of making child pornography and sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Is this not sad? It brings me to tears.

A good black man’s life destroyed, a girl’s boy friend taken away. All to protect her from "abuse". 

Where is Al Sharpton?

Where is President Barack Obama. I know, if he had a son, it would be a street fighting thug like Trayvon Martin. Where are men’s rights activists?

Where are the feminists, for the girl’s rights to have a boy friend, and to have her pictures taken?

 

He admitted he had sex with the girl when she was 17, which is the age of sexual consent in Illinois.

In a 5-2 ruling, the high court said that although the law allows 17-year-olds to consent to sex, they are still minors, making photos or video of such sex child porn.

This is nothing new:

The two dissenting justices said that because the photos don’t show an illegal act, they shouldn’t be illegal.

The dissenting minority has a bit of decency and common sense.

‘There was nothing unlawful about the production of the photographs taken by defendant in this case because the sexual conduct between defendant and (the girl) was entirely legal,’ wrote Justice Anne Burke, who was joined by Justice Charles Freeman.

‘The photographs are therefore not child pornography as defined by the U.S. Supreme Court for purposes of the First Amendment.

Due to voodoo theory and falsified research about the child sex trauma myth (Rind Study), the US supreme court made an EXCEPTION to constitutional rights of the First Amendment.

In the above case, no "*child" has been harmed through an illegal act, so there should be no reason to make an exception to constitutional first amendment rights.

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TheAntiFeminist.com closing down? MRA (Men’s right) support incarceration of men for normal male sexuality

The Antifeminist is ready to throw the towel. One of the lone sex positive MRA’s who oppose the long draconic prison terms for millions of men for doing things men have done for tens of thousands, if not millions of years:

  • having sex with fertile post pubertal 17 year old women or
  • looking at cave paintings of girls who could be under 18 years. 2 3

Well, it is time as antifeminism will be illegal hate speech all over the world

The antifeminist‘s biggest despair is the treason by the men’s rights movement, who support draconian prison terms for millions of men, and support ever growing sex offender lists …..

as long as pretty 25 year old female cheer leaders also get punished [4] for having sex with  220 pound 17 year old adolescent football player hunk vicims.  As the antifeminist would put it: equal injustice for all is the goal of most MRA.

 
Human-Stupidity encourage discussion in the comment section below.

 

Human-Stupidity.com is ne of the last free unconsored places on the internet, after we got kicked out from AVoiceForMen and shadowbanned in Reddit. We appreciate free speech laws enshrined in the US constitution! Citing the  antifeminist’s despair.

The legislative creep of feminists is ultimately going to embrace us all, it will not stop of its own accord, and it will require an army of angry young men to defeat it.  After 6 years, it’s evident to me now that I can never hope to attract here an army of angry young men, and the best I will get is a handful of ungrateful, creepy, aspie young men who are more of a burden than an asset.

I have to stress that the word " angry" does not mean we support or call for violence.

The other reason for my despair is the evident reality that Paul Elam and his co-bandits have effectively killed the men’s rights movement and turned it into a mirror version of that very same corrupt feminist financial industry that we have been fighting.  Now, turning the MRM into a donations industry is not in itself a bad thing, given that we face an enemy with a trillion dollars of financial backing.  But as I said, they have simply created a mirror version of feminism, and in their ‘equality of injustice’ stupidity, and desire for ‘liberal progressive rights’ legitimacy, have chosen to adopt the same values of feminism and applied them to men (and boys) unable to grasp (or rather to admit) that those values were chosen because they served feminists and women, not men and boys.

Thus the MHRM, although still doing some very good things for men, is now financing itself, and trying to legitimize itself, through the forced abusive victim labeling of even 17 year old boys who have sex with partners 5 years older than themselves (who in most cases would be other men). And hand in hand with that goes the validation of the entire feminist abuse industry that is behind the never ending legislative creep that now sees almost 2 million men in the USA and Europe on the sex offenders register, increasingly under undeniably insane feminist anti-sex laws and facing ever more draconian and degrading punishments, both in prison and after.

And the real violent forcible rapists hide behind the inumerous consensual sex offenders, Who had sex with women that enthusiasticaly consented but were a bit drunk, or 17 years old.

But what is even worse, is that these ‘men’s human righVoicts activists’ appear to be supporting the feminist mind rape of teenage boys and validating the persecution of millions of decent men as a means to fund a lavish lifestyle for themselves : http://manboobz.com/2014/01/06/a-voice-for-mens-paul-elam-finally-admits-that-hes-been-pocketing-an-unspecified-chunk-of-site-donations/

We actually don’t mind if activists who dedicate their life to a good cause, get financial support from donations. We do mind if MRA’s actively attack, threaten, malign and ban other MRA’s (Men’s rights activists) fornot condoning the feminist sex crime industry.

I don’t want to share in any responsibility for the forced mental anguish of millions of boys, based only upon feminist logic and self-interest, nor for the real violent anal rape of potentially millions of men under injust feminist laws accepted and validated by these frauds and traitors.  I want to be able to sleep at night, and I don’t want to go to hell.  My journey in the men’s rights movement over the last 6 years has been one of ever greater disillusionment, and maybe its time to admit that the road is going nowhere.

We beg the antifeminist to continue. We offer to take over the site, and leave it dormant as a document, if he decides to rescind responsibility.

 

While being represseb by the men’s rights movement

We still have the support of a few respectable main stream people

 

These sex persecutions of men are accompanied with life long sex offender listings, vigilante death threats. As normal criminals hate "sex offenders", these male victims of feminist and religious zealot sex laws almost certainly will suffer beatings and ass rape in prison by HIV positive felons for crimes such as

These feminists and their MHRA don’t even mind increasing real sex abuse of children: Legalizing Child Pornography reduces child sex abuse crimes (Scientific study by Dr. Milton Diamond, U. Hawaii)

 

 

2013 Was Bad, 2014 Will Be Worse

The Worst of 2013

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Make fatherhood a man’s choice! Like a sperm donor, not forced to pay

(A) Financial abortion, reproductive rights for men have been discussed by MRA’s, but usually rejected by feminists.

We will see that some feminists actually propose that men should have reproductive rights other then be forced to pay up for unintended consequences for sex.

(B) Further down we will also discuss the strange logic: If the father kills the fetus, it is murder. If the mother kills the fetus, it is reproductive rights.  See here, here, here, here and hereWhen is it illegal to make reproductive choices for others? When you’re a man

 

Make fatherhood a man’s choice!

The burden of pregnancy will never be fair. Child support can be — but men need to have a chance to opt out

Over the past fifteen years, some feminists have argued that ending the current child support system is an important social issue. In the October 19, 2000 issue of Salon,Cathy Young argued that women’s freedom to choose parenthood is a reproductive right men do not have but should. Her article, “A Man’s Right to Choose,” identifies abortion rights and adoption as options that allow women greater sexual freedom than men when a sexual encounter results in conception.  While there are alternatives to parental responsibility for women, for men, “in the eyes of the law, it seems that virtually no circumstances, however bizarre or outrageous, can mitigate the biological father’s liability for child support.”

Amen!   Even if mother cheated, lied, or raped: father always pays child support.

Kerrie Thornhill’s article “A Feminist Argument Against Child Support” in the July 18, 2011 issue of Partisans picks up this point, arguing that where birth control and safe abortion are legally available, choosing a sexual encounter should be a different choice than choosing to be a parent. She offers a three-step replacement for the current child support system. First, Thornhill writes that “when informed of a partner’s pregnancy, a man should get a single, time-sensitive opportunity to choose fatherhood.” Second, by accepting, a man would assume all the responsibilities of fatherhood, but by declining he would legally be no different than a sperm donor.

Great suggestion. If a man wants no financial responsibility, he gets treated like a sperm donor. This is a great way to put it.Though it still begs the question if it was not best, in the interested of the well being of the child, if the man could contribute, visit, as he wishes.

 

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EU to ban anti-feminist, racist, homophobic speech – urge former heads of state

 

Sophia Kuby, spokesman for European Dignity Watch, said the Framework betrays the essentially totalitarian mindset of significant elements within the European Union’s apparatus. The document, if adopted by the European Parliament, she said, “could lead to situations in which vague or unwarranted accusations are leveled against individuals and groups.”
Former heads of state call on EU to set up state surveillance of ‘intolerant’ citizens 

  • EU to ban anti-feminist, racist, homophobic speech
  • UN demands Germany repress free Speech.
  •  

    Thanks to avoiceformen for calling attention to

     Former heads of state urge EU to outlaw anti-feminism

     

    Take concrete action to combat intolerance, in particular with a view to eliminating racism,  colour bias, ethnic discrimination, religious intolerance, totalitarian ideologies, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, anti-feminism and homophobia. 4

    Political correctness dominates the United Nations and the European Union.  Hate speech laws went down the slippery slope from outlawing incitement of violence and lynching to hampering discussion and even academic research about race and iq, domestic violence, wage gap, immigration law.

     

    A prime example: it must be understood that demonstrations (in  exercise of freedom of assembly) need not be tolerated when they are likely to  degenerate into riots or infringe on the rights of others 4

    Unfortunately, this includes peaceful demonstrators that will create violent backlash counter-demonstrations. We are sure this will not be interpreted that Trayvon Martin or other Black rioters will be prevented from demonstrating. Not will violent feminists be constrained, but non-violent anti-feminists. After all, anti-feminists are criminalized by this law.

    Example s: tolerance does not denote acceptance of such practices as female circumcision,

    male circumcision is not only ok but required due to to mandatory tolerance for millennia-old religious mutilation in Jewish and Muslim holy rites

    forced marriage, polygamy

    polyandry is ok? And what is so terrible about polygamy that it needs to be outlawed at all costs and can not be left to local governments? Of course, the Muslims will oppose this

    or any form of exploitation or domination of women

    note that men can be exploited and dominated. For example by women and their family courts that reduce men to slave labor to provide life long comfortable income to women

    This text was prepared under the aegis of the European Council on Tolerance and Reconciliation by a Group of Experts composed of Yoram Dinstein (Chair), Ugo Genesio, Rein Mȕllerson, Daniel Thȕrer and Rȕdiger Wolfrum  4

    We at Human-Stupidity bemoan that Men’s Right’s Activists and Race Realists do not embrace each other and see that they face the same problems:   Gender Quotas, Race Quotas, "reverse discrimination", Hate Speech Laws, and systematic privileges for women, colored races, immigrants and non-native religions.

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